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Old 04-22-2004, 02:11 AM
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Talking Oh no! I think I'm going to buy another one!

I wanted a wagon (hence the ak300td user name) but couldn't find one in our price range so I flew to LA and bought our 300d. We just rolled 210,000 miles in the sedan (202 k when purchased) and are very happy with our new car. I had been talking (pre-sedan) with the owner of an 83 wagon up here but he was reluctant to sell...until now! He called me and accepted my offer and it looks like we'll be the proud owners of TWO 123's! I'm going to check the car out in a week or two to finalize the sale...time to get my butt in gear and work on WVO and biodiesel!

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Old 04-22-2004, 10:21 AM
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Amazing how we're ready to drill into a pristene wilderness for a short supply of oil, but aren't motivating to get a boidiesel station in every city in America...
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Old 04-22-2004, 12:03 PM
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Amazing how we're ready to drill into a pristene wilderness for a short supply of oil, but aren't motivating to get a boidiesel station in every city in America...

It starts at the top. That's all I'm gonna say.

Congrats on the wagon purchase! I would love to get my hands on one of those things.
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:02 PM
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It starts at the top. That's all I'm gonna say.

It doesn't end at the top, though. I know of many people on the pickup forums with the attitude that they won't burn "french fry grease" in their $40,000 truck. We need to educate the masses. Change won't truly happen, though, until biodiesel is cheaper.
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Old 04-22-2004, 04:30 PM
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Hmmm...they won't burn "french fry grease" in their $40,000 trucks but they will burn the next closest thing to crude oil in it??
That's just stupid! I mean, if these people knew how much maintenance and money that biodiesel would save them.

I wonder if people realize that petrodiesel is so terribly crude.
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Old 04-22-2004, 04:44 PM
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They're learning...slowly but surely...the timid need us "groundbreakers" to lead the way for them

As dino diesel prices go up, commercial biod becomes more competetive. I have not found a biod supplier in Alaska yet so I'll be making my own. Imagine if we all had to pay the REAL cost of a gallon of dino diesel. Biod would be about half the price!
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Imagine if we all had to pay the REAL cost of a gallon of dino diesel. Biod would be about half the price!
You hit the nail on the head. Also, bio will go down some due to economy-of-scale considerations as its use grows larger. The only trick is, can we grow enough oil crops to fuel our needs? Most think not, but newer technologies (i.e. algae farms, gmo oil crops, etc) may make it possible.
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Question Speaking of biodiesel...

I've always been interested in making my own biodiesel, or in purchasing some from the local company in the city I live. However I don't know if it will work well with my 1984 300SD. I read somewhere that vehicles made before the mid 1990s shouldn't run on biodiesel as the fuel delivery lines are made of plastic that would be corroded by the contents of biodiesel. At the same time I also read a comment from a biodiesel distributor who stated that only VW diesels from the 1980s had that corrosion issue, that every other 1980s diesel engine that was run on biodiesel didn't have any issues.

To those around here who currently use biodisel, what year should your car be made after in order for you to run biodiesel safely without killing your fuel delivery hoses?

My info came from here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html
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Old 04-23-2004, 08:57 AM
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There are no impediments to using ASTM biodiesel in ANY diesel engined vehicle.
There are MINOR issues which MAY be encountered with old, perished and damaged rubber components in the fuel system.
These same issues occur with ULSD too.
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Old 04-23-2004, 10:23 AM
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TonyFromWestOz,

Do you use biodiesel in your diesel M-Bs?

Also, can you explain the meanings of ULSD and ASTM? Thanks.
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Old 04-23-2004, 11:41 AM
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ULSD=ultra low sulfer diesel
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From what I've read/heard, there is no problem with WVO affecting natural rubber fuel hoses and seals. I understand that trace amounts of methanol found in biodiesel degrade natural rubber over time. Many have run biodiesel in vehicles with natural rubber for a long time without seeing any leaking. Others change the hoses/seals prior to use just to be sure.

I hope to use WVO as much as possible and use biodiesel when its too cold to use the WVO.
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One thing to watch out for with WVO is overly acidic oils that can slowly strip metals out of the I.P.
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Do you wash your WVO or just try and use slightly used oil?
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ASTM stands for the American Society for Testing Methods (I believe) and is the body that sanctions many of the laboratory testing procedures for use in various US industries. So ASTM biodiesel is biodiesel that has passed certain ASTM testing specifications.

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