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Old 09-18-2004, 02:22 PM
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More crankshaft position sensor questions

Having some tough luck.
Ordered a Sensor online. Even gave the vendor my VIN.
Paid $80+ at 1st glance looked right.
It has the wrong electric hook up.
Non returnable. I am out $80.
I was sent the Flywheel interlock double f6010-70575
My next purchase is Crankshaft position Interlock single f6010-140094.

My questions are why ? are these different ? ? what does double and single mean ?
Why 2 types for same engine?
If only they had pictures of these parts before I order.
The one I have is so close yet so far.
I will update this post if the CPS interlock single works or not.
ANY input welcome. I'm all ears.Note my sensor has the elect clip guide on the back side from the mounting bold. My erroronous $80.00 replacement has the guide on the side.


Cant go anywhere with my old sensor on my work bench.And my new one not fitting,

SEPTEMBER 20 UPDATE. 2nd sensor arrived this morning. It fit even though the Bosch stamped numbers on the side were not the same. I installed it in 60 seconds. 1st 3 short test drives a success. No Stalling. But check engine light came on for 1st time.
2005 UPDATE: All is well- my problem was the Crankshaft Position Sensor.
Happy Trails.

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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles

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Old 09-18-2004, 03:44 PM
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Is this what the sensor looks like?
Is the OEM part# 0031532828?
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Old 09-18-2004, 04:07 PM
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Does not look like my CPS

only the lower 2/3rds

the top has more of an oval where the connections plugs in.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 09-18-2004, 04:12 PM
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Yeah, I don't think they use that "coax" style electrical connector anymore.
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:50 AM
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Follow-up to CPS fix

Steve Danville: Great write up. Do you have a picture of the sensor you could NOT use. Perhaps it will fit my 1999 ML430. (I could not view one of the pictures in your 9-18-2004 post). Thanks and happy holidays.
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:19 AM
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Cps Replacement

the only picture I have is the post up 6 frames from this one.

I dont have the non fitting CPS any longer. The vendor was nice enough to allow me to send it back to my surprise.

Good Luck.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 12-27-2004, 06:02 PM
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ml430-where is this sensor?

i can't find anything that looks like the diagram that's posted. is it different on a ml430??? thanks
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:16 PM
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Ml

i am only guessing
but displacement of the CYL should be the big diff not the location of the sensor.

it is on the drivers side of the engine. and i dont mean back. i mean right side if you are standing with your belt buckle on the radiator.

if i recall about 2/3rd of the way back of the engine..and 1/3 the way down - use a flashlight and look for some wires going to a clip on elect fitting -
take that off and you will see and inch or two black round sensor.

I may have even found it 1st timw by fondling around for it.

THis is on the ML320-I know nothing about the others.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles

Last edited by sdanville; 01-08-2005 at 11:34 PM. Reason: state what truck I own.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:18 AM
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thanks, i'll try again. the ml graphic doesn't look like my engine and i thought perhaps it was different for a ml320. i've got a 430
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:51 PM
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crankshaft position sensor

guys, i'm looking like nuts for this thing. i've got a ml430-8 cylinders- don't see anything like it anywhere. could it be that it's different on a 8 cylinder? is there an engine diagram schematic deal somewhere??? thanks.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:08 PM
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See http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=102905
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Old 01-08-2005, 11:09 PM
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ml430 crankshaft position sensor

ok, are we talking about an item that has about 4 wires coming into it, and maybe 2 going out? it's not connected to the engine.
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Old 01-08-2005, 11:39 PM
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Drawing is of the V6 not the V8

Fyi......
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:05 AM
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No, the sensor is attached to the top of the bell housing (reads off of the teeth on the flywheel) it's behind the drivers side cylinder head, very hard to see it, have to try to look or feel between the head and firewall. Has 1 connector, I think 3 wires, not sure, and has 1 screw retaining it to the bell housing. It fits inside a bore, aimed towards the ring gear.

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Old 02-01-2005, 12:00 PM
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Cps

hey guys, you were exactly right!!! ordered the part online, had a friend install it. as described, it took a little while to locate and figure out how to reach this part of the motor, but after that got settled it was a relatively easy fix. the dealer and regular mechanics told me it was a egr valve and i also need spark plugs- it would have spent over $1000 chasing them items around and STILL would have had to replace the CPS. Super help- thanks to everyone- the car is now running great!

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