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Old 01-18-2007, 12:42 PM
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Waybomb and you need to start your own website so you can counter all the negative publicy created by this website http://www.mercedes-benz-usa.com/
Every brand has websites where owners that have had unfortunate problems vent their frustrations. Many more than one. Stick with your utility cars. Mercedes doesn't need defending their US sales last year speak for themselves.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:16 PM
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Every brand has websites where owners that have had unfortunate problems vent their frustrations. Many more than one. Stick with your utility cars. Mercedes doesn't need defending their US sales last year speak for themselves.
Your right DieselJim, The Mercedes Experience, Unlike Any Other. My 2 cents.

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Old 01-18-2007, 02:25 PM
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So I believe the difference is "to enjoy a well engineered machine" or "to move from point A to point B" in the driving we do. To a lot of people there is no difference when driving a Toyota or a Benz, you know, if you push the accelerator pedal, the car will go, if the steering wheel turns the car will turn, and so forth. For these people: lease Toyota/Honda for 36 mo.

I enjoy driving a lot, and find Japanese and American made vehicles extremely boring to drive. I have virtually driven most vehicles out there and have found over the years that nothing but MB or BMW are my choices as enjoyable cars to drive. I stick to MB because is the one I learned more about, so I understand better what I am driving. If PROPERLY maintained, it will work well and for a long time.

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Old 01-19-2007, 09:08 AM
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.fredlovesmercedesandfastboatsandplanesandwomenandgoodfoodandgreatwineandespeciallyhigendtequila.com ????

Ya think anybody would visit it?
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:33 AM
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Just how long is any machine supposed to be reliable?
If it's mechanical something is going to break; it's only a matter of time.

That said I've owned MB vehicles for 25 years. The ones made now are much lower quality than the older ones. But they are much safer if you are in an accident and the electronic stability programs are fantastic.

I have four MBs now with three being 1992 or older. The only newer one is the Alabama made 1999 ML 320. Quality of this vehicle is not that great. However with all the problems, I still like it a lot and have no plans to sell it. If it's well mantained it is a very good vehicle. If you can not maintan the vehicle yourself or are reluctant to pay someone a lot of cash to mantain your Mercedes then you should problably be driving a Honda or Toyota. I know when I no longer am able to or want to work on cars I'll stop driving Mercedes vehicles.

The lasted ML problem was the blend air motor. Not a problelm for me but if you can not do it yourself it will cost you able $1000. The motor is Chinese.


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Old 01-20-2007, 03:16 PM
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...then you should problably be driving a Honda or Toyota....
Funny, right after reading the above I scan the news and see this...

Toyota recalls 533,000 vehicles
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-070119toyota-story,0,678451.story?coll=chi-business-hed

Honda recalls 81,000 Accord sedans in U.S.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=governmentFilingsNews&storyID=2007-01-19T143310Z_01_N19280556_RTRIDST_0_HONDA-RECALL.XML
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:23 PM
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I like recalls

I wish mercedes would recall our ML320's..more than they do.
I would have loved to have them recall the Mass Air Flow Sensor, The Crankshaft position sesnor, and Window switch for example. But No...owners have to deal with it.

the only recall i had with all the honda's i have owned was they called me in for a free oil change and free tune up with 140,000 miles. Something about a deal with the government regarding emmissions. It ran great before the recall.
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CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:24 PM
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and like mercedes has never had any recalls?

check this link:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/01-int/mercedes-benz/index.html

im not trying to be a jerk to anyone. its just thier is an obvious problem with the ML line, and alot of people seem to agree. however i cant speak for everyone. And when someone just starts rambling on about how "the car probably wasnt taken care of" or " its older so things are gonna break" it just kinda irritates me. For one my sister always has that thing in for routine check, and even more for failures. The fact that it just turned 4 years old justfies none of this. A car this new should not have this many problems, expecially a Mercedes-Benz.( at least i used to think so). Items that shouldn't go for a long time on a car, go out on her Ml. But everytime thier is a problem, she always has it fixed, none of this "living with the problem(s)". and it just irritates me how she has to live with such a pile of junk Period! its ok if everyone else has a different opinion, you have your rights to your own opinion, but my opinion is that this car as of right now is not so good.
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:27 PM
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nobody said that

Nobody said Mercedes didnt have recalls.

I even have mine listed in my signiture.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:11 AM
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Well i just chatted with my sister. She is going to continue to keep her ML320. I Guess she has never had the window problem..... yet. Im jurt trying to look out for my sister and nephew. dont want them to get stranded. But thanks for all your help and input guys. Really appriciated. She was at 51K when the pump broke. What can she expect to break comming up?? thanks for everthing guys.
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2003 Jaguar X-type 3.0 Sport Sold 04/11 w/88K
2009 Lexus RX350 9061 miles. Sold 04/09
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:20 AM
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Next problem...

The 1st time it stalls at a red light....
it will probably restart...
then it will start happening frequently. It is the Crankshaft position sensor.
Only about $70 and easy to install.

I had to push my ML320 out of traffic with the help of a couple motorists.
3 minutes later it cooled enough to restart I went straight home and took my 1991 Honda.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:32 PM
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My two cents

I sort of love my 2000 ML320 (bought new), but Mercedes would have made me much happier, and a more likely repeat buyer by:
1. Not just tightening my power steering clamp under recall, and sending me back on the road. After the "recall work" the hose popped off the softened hose, stranding me in the middle of the night. Yeah, second trip in, replaced under recall, but just plain inconvenient. Mercedes saved no money, and gained no "good will"
2. Replacing all the defective window switches, before failure. Again, they knew that they would not last, but felt that it would be ok for an owner of a car of this cost to open the driver's window to pay a toll in the snow, and not be able to "get it up"
3. Not charging an arm and a leg for the D pillar plastics, which are universally cracking or losing clear coat
4. Not setting an appointment for a cat recall, with no cats in stock.
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