Question for Americans voters on this forum

[pj67coll]

I'm curious about what American citizens see as the most important issue/issues that will influence thier votes in the upcomming election. I dont mean who you will vote for or what your vote will be, but simply what the issues are that will influence your votes?

- Peter.

[Botnst]

#1. Global Islamofascist terrorism.

#27,583 Something else.

[GermanStar]

World conqueror or world leader? White hats or black hats? Impose our will or support free will?

[Zeitgeist]

...I'm firmly resolved to rehash once and for all the moral relevance of events and activities of thirty years ago.






*I also want to figure out the meaning of the phrase "Global Islamofascist terrorism". Sounds like a flimsy imprimatur to embark on an Imperialist crusade...

Originally Posted by GermanStar

World conqueror or world leader? White hats or black hats? Impose our will or support free will?

BOTH, whatever means required.

[Chris Bell]

Originally Posted by Botnst

#1. Global Islamofascist terrorism.

#27,583 Something else.

Here here.

Originally Posted by Botnst

#1. Global Islamofascist terrorism.

#27,583 Something else.

same here

#2 an amendment banning tops on women with acceptable breasts.
#3 Rewrite FCC rules to allow full nudity on prime time tv.
#4 free beer
#5 BAN NASCAR and impose mandatory F1 races daily.

[Zeitgeist]

Originally Posted by w126

How best to stay out of my wallet and leave me and my family alone.

...so you're anti-corporate are ya?

Originally Posted by w126

How best to stay out of my wallet and leave me and my family alone.

My sentiments exactly!!!!!

[davidmash]

Federal bench apointments

[JimSmith]

Zeitgeist,

To simplistic a question to generate any really thoughtful answers. Bot about hit the nail on the head, unless you ask yourself what happens after we address the Islamofacist terrorists. It is clear the politicians love situations like this, where they can claim all the other plundering and raping of the general welfare coffers are justified by the need to succeed on the one, most important issue. Which is secretly conducted for national security reasons. Yeah, that's the ticket!

The selection of the next leader should be based on an assessment of how the present one, since he is still a choice because his party can't ditch him at this point, has done at the whole role of being President of the United States. This should be compared to what the alternates are.

Given an honest assessment of how GWB has done, the Republican Party should have dumped him. Kirk V and others have posted plenty of data that shows GWB has munged up just about everything he has touched. The Republican Party should have been looking for a replacement long ago. McCain would have been an electable choice, but given his stellar performance as a trained dog at the convention it seems maybe he isn't quite what his image implied.

Kerry is an unknown, tagged as an uber-Liberal, and therefore, without viewing what the present administration's fiscal record shows, rejected for wanting to spend more money. The present administration has found it much easier to spend the next generation of Americans' money, since they cannot vote yet, and sing a hypnotic song of tax refunds and permanent reductions to keep the simple of mind in a trance. I heard nothing but sound bites like "economic girlymen" and "fighting with spitballs" and a few others during the GOP convention, and nothing about how the next four years under GWB were going to function on a fiscal basis.

Anyway, the question requires a thoughtful answer, not another sound bite type response. While the most important things may be associated with addressing the Islamofacist terrorism threat, it is how that will be addressed while maintaining America what has made it such an outstanding world citizen, and country to be a citizen in that is important. Under the present leadership we could soon be alone facing a few billion Islamofacists we helped create, leading to the widespread use of nuclear weapons, by America, sooner than anyone might have guessed.

A few more simultaneous Islamofacist terrorism non-states attacking the US and then what? Another "Bring 'em on!" speech and then what? More inadequate numbers of troops and weapons dispatched to die because GWB can't learn to out think Islamofacist terrorists?

After 9/11 it seemed to be a general consensus that Islamofacist terrorism needed to be stamped out. The rest of the world looked to us for leadership, and, instead of using that dependence on the US for leadership in times of crisis, we alienated the rest of the world with the obsessive pursuit of Iraq, and forced them to learn to depend on themselves. It will never be as easy and straightforward to unify the rest of the world to fight Islamofacist terror again. The situation in Chechnya that just unfolded cannot help anyone from the rest of the world see that Iraq was the correct action. We clearly have not stopped Islamofacist terrorism by attacking Iraq in the minds of the Russian people.

The point of all this is the criteria should be for a team of leaders with the capability to out think the Islamofacist terrorists, the capability to enlist the rest of the world to join in, and to somehow get the rest of the world to follow our lead again. Because we are right not because we paid off the heads of a bunch of weak, failing, local governments.

This same team should have the integrity to address the long term financial robustness this country needs to remain the world economic leader, address our uniquely inadequate national health care picture, and eliminate our dependence on petroleum based energy sources.

Jim

[Zeitgeist]

A thoughtful response.

I happen to think the term Islamofascist is goofy and just plain wrong.

The tiny cadre of criminals at the heart of this uber-hyped collective panic attack is just that; a tiny cadre of criminals--no more, no less. US foreign policy over the years, and especially over the last few years, has allowed these goons a level of popular support in the middle east/asia they could've never achieved had we not propped up oppressive regimes and interfered in the internal affairs of (fomerly) sovereign nations--but we did it nonetheless, and continue to this day. But, this popular support is in the abstract, and not representative of broad wholesale buyoff amongst these populations for their entire criminal agenda. These criminals are the Pancho Villa of their day, standing up against the Imperialist bully run amok, so folks voice support for the one group that has shown the moxie to fight back. Iraq has swelled the ranks of those willing to engage in criminal action, BUT, we're still talking about a tiny cadre of criminals. This does not require an entire nation to mobilize and become whipped up in a frenzied state of fear/rage/apathy like we've been led to believe. This calls for an international resolve to engage in strategic and surgical police strikes at the core of the criminal element. All the while honestly seeking to address the legitimate underpinnings that motivate the popular support for their criminal actions.

T'aint easy, but it's doable, if we had the political willpower to be introspective and humble, rather than thoughtless and reactionary. I level the latter charge against both major parties in the US. The Dems are just as culpable in getting us into the Iraq quagmire--there's no excuse for their duplicity.

[mzsmbs]

Originally Posted by Botnst

#1. Global Islamofascist terrorism.

#27,583 Something else.

You have 27k+ issues???? Man you got issues!

We must destroy Islamofacism by whatever means necessary. The entire western culture is threatened by this movement. It is growing and must be stopped, unless you want your childern and grandchildren being called to prayer three times a day. Iraq has become a great killing ground for these saps. They come from all over the middle east and we kill them, pretty simple premise. America is committed to winning this war, and it will span the globe and last a long time, get used to it and get behind it. There is nothing more important right now.

With staments like that we are really effed. I am not picking just on you but this was near the end.

Z, you are so right but you should know that America is "not me" and an admittance of any mistakes will never happen because god is on our side...