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I understand your point of needing to kill the cat. In India, when the villagers want to hunt down a man eating tiger, they ususally form a circle of the estimated vicinity where the cat is and "corner" it in a specific location and then lure it out. If a bunch of uneducated villagers and cow herders can perform such a hunt, why can't those highly educated game wardens along with all the high tech night goggles crap our government has end up killing a life we spend millions all over the world to save?

What's up with the comparison of sending a man with a familiy to hunt down a tiger versus sending a man to Iraq to hunt down a terrorist? It is a job they all sign up to do, right? Or how about sending a man to bust into a crack house full of high power weapons?

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This is an option that is being currently considered. If you like more information, from a local Ventura County paper, on options on what to do to the owner go to:

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As I stated before, I am personally acquainted with the exact spot where the tiger was shot. It would have been possible for the tracker to first attempt to tranqulize the tiger and, if that failed, then shoot it. Using deadly force reflects a complete lack of planning.

The tiger had not hunted anything in two weeks. The tiger was also declawed. Anuone who has declawed a household cat knows that the cat must be kept indoors forever. A declawed cat cannot hunt or defend itself. Same thing for a tiger.

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Not in this weather!

I agree with you 100%

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exactly my point elau. thanks

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So a declawed tiger is not dangerous? I bet Roy the Tiger tamer would disagree.

I'm sure if the tiger was a fetus you guys would have been chasing it with chainsaws since it was so defenseless.

How much and how long?

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He's seen one before so I'm sure there would be no problem

Do you see no difference between a widlife agent and a soldier?

Wildlife agents do not sign-on the dotted line subsuming their free will to the good order and discipline of the agency. You cannot compel, under threat of death, a widlife agent. Soldiers kill human beings and human beings hunt soldiers. Widlife agents (very rarely) are asked to kill an animal. Among native North American predators, in the rarest of circumstances do they stalk humans.

The villager scenario is not bad. How often do you think, as a taxpayer, we shoudl take time to train wildlife agents in the proper method of hunting a tiger? How about a rhinocerus? A lion? A snow leopard? Black mamba? Crate? Croc? How many different skills do you think agents should have? How much of your tax dollars are you willing to spend to send your local agents to India to learn about tiger hunting? Australia for croc wrestling?

It's a damned shame about the tiger. But I would never ask an officer to risk his life to save an animal.

That kitty cat was so dangerous, unlike the tailgating morons that we live ( or die ) with every day and the sociopaths packing high capacity 9mm's. ( not talking about responsible citizens with CC permit here )

I had a buddy that raised a mountain lion. It did concern the neighbors when it roamed their back yards and stalked their pets. He had to find a new home for the lion or someone would have shot it. Man was that cat strong. When it tackled someone they dropped like a sack of flour. I swear I think it could have dropped linebackers all day long for fun.

A couple years ago I think when we were in Maine there was a moose that went swimming on a public beach. It attracted a crowd of onlookers. There weren't enough police to disperse the crowd and so they had to shoot the moose when it came back to the shore and the waiting crowd of onlookers. It was a very unpopular move to shoot the moose right there in front of the kids and all. But the police had no choice, moose are very dangerous animals.

Lets see. A 400# predator hadn't had a meal in 2 weeks. Who wants to get in a canyon with kitty?

Have you ever shot at anything? Lets say you're within dart range of kitty, 50m or so. The tiger can take 50m meters in three bounds, accelerating the whole time. You've got a rifle powerful enough to stop a 400# animal. That's is a big mofo rifle. .45 to .50 cal, like a .458 win mag or a .50 cal Barret. If you're really quick you'll get one good shot and maybe a second hasty one of it's the Barret. Or you may have a double, in which case you have two shots for sure, but i don't give a damn how fast or cool you think you are, that second shot is not gonna be worth a crap. The tiger is charging so it is narrow and it's bounding--going up-and-down. Your job is to put a killing bullet into it before it bites Mr. Dartman's head off and then turns on you.

*****! MedMech. I just spewed gin on my CRT.

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Not true. I am not saying Bot is wrong for his argument. My point is that the there was no planning and thus a life was wasted. They had 8 days to come up with a plan, but they chose the easy way out. Tiger is not a native animal in North America, and any idiot could have figured that it had to be a pet of some sort. But yet they made no attempt to ask the public to come forward so they knew what they were up against. All they wanted was to get this fiasco over with. Wish the same determination was expanded when they were hunting for OBL.

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Of course I see the difference. But do you see that both are professionals, in which planning is part of a profession?

Are you sure of that? They spend quite a bit of time hunting down mountain lions and cyotes out West.

I am not here to say they need all the neccessary skills you mentioned. In order to be a Wildlife Agent, one of the pre-requisites is the knowledge of wild animals and their behavior. Their job is not necessarily to hunt and killl, but to protect and preserve. The whole episode is about they had ample of time to come up with a viable plan to avoid killing the life they are supposedly saving.

Just what do you think your tax dollar went to? They sure did not protect and preserve. If so, why we need such a department. Whenever we have something wild threaten our middle class suburbia, just call in the SWAT team and put a bullet into whatever roaming the boulevard.

So the animal's life is not worth a human's? How arrogant. No wonder, as a species, we deserve what's coming to us.

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An animal is an animal....it isn't equal to or more important than a human life.

That Tiger was on the loose for over a week.......it could have killed an unsuspecting person or child......

Lets see you explain to some dead childs parents......" I sorry but the poor tiger has rights...and they were more important than your dead kids were."

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