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Old 06-23-2005, 12:01 PM
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:04 PM
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:41 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is on a pedestal supported by the GOP to smear democrats, just as is Rush, Imus, and a large number of others. Let them continue to banter, as people are now beginning to hear how ridiculous their mantras O'Reilly are!
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:43 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is on a pedestal supported by the GOP to smear democrats, just as is Rush, Imus, and a large number of others. Let them continue to banter, as people are now beginning to hear how ridiculous their mantras O'Reilly are!
Then exactly what do you call CBS...and NPR....at least Bill O'Riely comments on Real events...not made up stories.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:45 PM
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Then exactly what do you call CBS...and NPR....at least Bill O'Riely comments on Real events...not made up stories.
Is there such a thing as self imposed brainwashing?
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:47 PM
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I know it exists...look at the entire democratic party.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:52 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is on a pedestal supported by the GOP to smear democrats, just as is Rush, Imus, and a large number of others. Let them continue to banter, as people are now beginning to hear how ridiculous their mantras O'Reilly are!

yea, Al Franken and Rhandi Rhodes are one their own. My uncle is an investor in Air America with a whole bunch of other DNC members so don't think for one second it doesn't happen on both sides of the track.

The thing that confuses me about the O'Reilly and Limbaugh hate is they clearly state their own opinion, there is no hiding the right wing bias and it's an op-ed not a news broadcast. Why do liberal news anchors get a pass when they misguide the public (60 minutes rings a bell) while actively hiding their own opinions and report with a illusion that they are "covering" a story.

The big difference is O'reilly can be sued for libel or slander while "news" organizations get the freedom of the press pass.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:59 PM
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Why do liberal news anchors get a pass when they misguide the public
Maybe their not misguiding the public too!
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:02 PM
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Maybe their not misguiding the public too!
Calling the Liberal news media miguided and liars would be the understatement of the decade.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:22 PM
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Maybe their not misguiding the public too!
Are you serious? are you baiting or naive?

There is not ONE single right or left writer, commentator, reporter, producer, or owner that does not attempt to promote their own thoughts on any given issue. I don't care if it's Dog Fancy, Autoweek or The Daily Worker bias is everywhere.
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Last night, on "The Daily Show", guest Bill Moyers made a statement that made incredible sense to me. He said that the right wing hates journalism and being reported on, they prefer to have "pundits" act as journalist to get their message and spin out and then up the ante by attacking real journalist.

In a sense, Botnst hit the nail on the head . . . guys like Bill, Rush, Hannity aren't journalist, but like Comedy Central's Jon Stewart . . . they just play one on TV.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:26 PM
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Last night, on "The Daily Show", guest Bill Moyers made a statement that made incredible sense to me. He said that the right wing hates journalism and being reported on, they prefer to have "pundits" act as journalist to get their message and spin out and then up the ante by attacking real journalist.

In a sense, Botnst hit the nail on the head . . . guys like Bill, Rush, Hannity aren't journalist, but like Comedy Central's Jon Stewart . . . they just play one on TV.

Bill Rush, and Hannity don't pretend to be journalists....they are commentators and never hide that fact.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:37 PM
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When someone claims to be in charge of the No Spin Zone and repeatedly claims that he deals only in facts, we have a right to expect objectivity.That may be, but it is appropriate to call them when they get caught lying, like when Terry Gross got O'Reilly to lie on two separate occasions about his being a registered Republican.
Sure, bust him. Just don't claim he's a reporter or newscaster. Even when he was with network news he didn't do straight reporting.

Is Molly Henenberg or a reporter or an editorialist? To me, that's a much more interesting question. Especially on TV 'news' nonverbal communication, careful inflection of voice, and things left unsaid all affect how we receive information from a reporter. In the case of FoxNews REPORTERS they do as good a job as any presenting facts. It is all the nonverbal stuff that grinds folks' corn.

The same thing goes on all TV channels. It's just that we have blinders to teh sources that we find most agreeable. Especially on TV. And that's why I don't watch an awful lot of TV. It's too shallow and too refined, I don't care which channel.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:37 PM
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Are you serious? are you baiting or naive?

There is not ONE single right or left writer, commentator, reporter, producer, or owner that does not attempt to promote their own thoughts on any given issue. I don't care if it's Dog Fancy, Autoweek or The Daily Worker bias is everywhere.
Yes, but it doesn't mean their thought is wrong, just because you, or someone else says that it is!
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:39 PM
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Yes, but it doesn't mean their thought is wrong, just because you, or someone else says that it is!
Or you, right?

On a more important topic, I vote MedMech's new avatar is even better than his previous. What do ya'll think?

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