Jimmy Carter doesn't fit that.....he's a mighty big hypocrit these days....he blew his holier than thou thing about 10 years ago...I may have thought he was a lousy president but I respected him untill his recent outbursts.

Barack Obama....well maybe..but he's not got a big track record yet but lacking anything big and negative I will let him stand unquestioned...

5 Jim Smith? I would forcefully disagree , the reasons for that I feel no need to explain....as it was not happenings on this site. Besides...he's not a politician.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

and you are not laughing...right?

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Oh I remeber that ad....that was a classic.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

All dems sound like hypocrits...after the republican slander machine gets through with them...........How anyone can support those corrupt as$wipes is beyond my imagination.

I'm moving to Holland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

not all dems...just most of them....

and its their own rants that do it....

Howard deans screaming fit...

Al Gores screaming fit...

Hillary Clintons screaming fit...

Jimmy Carters recent rants....

sorry, the RNC couldn't have done better than what these people did on their own.

Hell I'm more impressed at Bills behaviour recently than the rest of the democratic party combined. And thats not easy for me to admit. And I am serious about that.

Him and Joe Lieberman are the only two I have seen act maturely and respectfully in recent months...from the left of center. I can't fault anything either has done recently.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

I like Bill Maher, however, many of his bush/america hating shows recently are for people with a certain personality and a narrow persuasion.

I've never been a politico fan, but

What about my favorite small forward #24; from Princeton...

Bill Bradley.........

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"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

#5 occassionally verbosely pontificates with Olympian grandeur on another forum.

He didn't have the balls to get himself actually banned from here (unlike a certain zeitly geist or a scotsman whose wit and intelligence are sorely missed from here) when this place was annhilated. #5 moved over there and huffed loudly and sighed at least twice at the injustice of it all. I thought for a moment he might give a very French stamp of his foot, but he demured at the last moment.

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name one that's non-hypocrite in your beloved government.

"no child left behind"? (or leave no child a dime)

"clear sky act"? (now that there are no trees left, there’s a clear view of the sky)

"spreading freedom and democracy"? (as long as American multinational corporations are profiting from war and oppression around the globe and stealing foreign oil)

"weapons of mass destruction"? (mmm…I’m sure they are here somewhere)

“united we stand”? (hard to see how they want to unite the nation when 14 year old girls raped by their daddies would die before they’d get an abortion)


i want to believe bush’s is honest when he shuts his eyes in prayer, but am afraid it's just the cocaine residue kicking in

right wing Christian fundamentalists’ agenda-
“PRO-LIFE FOR THE UNBORN PRO-DEATH FOR THE BORN... ”

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Bill Clinton helps out the Bushes because he loves his country more than he love partisan sqabbling -- and considering how much partisan $h!t that got thrown his way, I'd say that's a sign of a big man.

He also helps out because the Bushes need some serious help, and, it doesn't hurt Hillary's chances in '08.

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The guy was even more wooden than Al Gore. Poor guy. Dead in the water as a major candidate.

I sure did like the Knicks of the late 60s with Bradley, DeBusscher, Reed, Frazier, and Barnett. The best passing team of all time, IMHO. Bradley was good on the floor, that floor anyway.

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I heard on the radio that Bill Maher had said we need to recall Bush, that California had the right idea on that. Wouldn't THAT be nice...

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I was avoiding saying that becasue he was not in on the discussion but thats exactly dead on accurate.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

You got that wrong..........Bill is helping out becasue he sees what blowhards the rest of his party are and he is man enough to not act like the rest of the idiots........

Hillary doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell.....she doomed herself since she was in college with her own deeds and actions...

The Dems may have a 14 day attention span but the rest of us have not forgotten adn will not forget all of her previous actions....

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Bill Maher is a bigger blowhard than Howard Dean and that just proves my point about the liberals mindset..

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche