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Old 12-06-2005, 07:29 PM
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And along the way, 10's of thousands were slaughtered, their way of life has disappeared, their culture has all but disappeared … not sure I would call it a fair exchange if I were in their place.

Not sure why people think that living a "simple" life is so horrible. It is just different from us. There are times when I think the stress of our lives is not worth the effort and that the aborigines or the recently discovered tribes in Africa have it so much easier. Is it such a benefit to have to work 8 or more hours a day, live in a chemical infested house in a chemical infested city, having to drive on pollution infested roads, eating chemically infesting food … ? Not so certain the native americans with their lean-toos (sp) did not have the right idea.
Believe me David part of my post was meant in jest and part was meant to ponder. As far as the wars between us go, before we came here they had their own inter-tribal wars and killed each other. Man's inhumanity to mankind was their problem too. The tribes up here still have their rivalries. As far as the simpler life goes there are two sides of the coin. Yes it would be nice to have way less stress like they had but would you give up such things as modern medicine and have to rely on some witch doctor? When it comes to my health I'll take proven science before some shaman blowing smoke to the four winds.

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Old 12-06-2005, 07:29 PM
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:32 PM
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give up such things as modern medicine and have to rely on some witch doctor
or living past 45 years old.

I do appreciate the modern things but I do sometimes wonder what it would have been like to live in North America before the white man came - just some open ponderings I suppose.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:43 PM
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or living past 45 years old.

I do appreciate the modern things but I do sometimes wonder what it would have been like to live in North America before the white man came - just some open ponderings I suppose.
nothing wrong with pondering....

about living life without the flu or the common cold....or any of the forms of venerial maladies that afflict man.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:56 PM
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Believe me David part of my post was meant in jest and part was meant to ponder. As far as the wars between us go, before we came here they had their own inter-tribal wars and killed each other. Man's inhumanity to mankind was their problem too. The tribes up here still have their rivalries. As far as the simpler life goes there are two sides of the coin. Yes it would be nice to have way less stress like they had but would you give up such things as modern medicine and have to rely on some witch doctor? When it comes to my health I'll take proven science before some shaman blowing smoke to the four winds.

I know about the tribal conflicts but somehow it seems different (at least in my mind) than the Europeans coming in and doing what we did. Cannot quite put it into words but somehow I sense a difference (I could be wrong).

As far as medicine is concerned, I seem to recall a show on NGC or Discovery about doctors and scientists going to south america and africa to talk to their tribal healers about the medicine that they use since in some cases apparently, it works far better than the stuff we have. Yes, statically more of our stuff works, but sometimes, simple is better.

I kind of figured as much with the "jest and ponder". You seem quite level headed and the post seemed a bit out of character.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:57 PM
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How bout the native American Indians that were sitting here minding their own business when the Christians showed up and wanted to start paying for everything.
Or how about the Folsom people who got moved-out by the Indians? What a travesty!
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I resent those damned saxons and angles messing up a perfectly good pictish island. Then those dang eye-talians from Rome showed-up with their paved roads and indoor heated water and bathing and chit. Pffft, there goes the neighborhood.

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wait till NAMBLA tries to force their viewpoints next....
What has NAMBLA got to do with anything? You willing to nail NAMBLA at the expense of everything else?
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I resent those damned saxons and angles messing up a perfectly good pictish island. Then those dang eye-talians from Rome showed-up with their paved roads and indoor heated water and bathing and chit. Pffft, there goes the neighborhood.

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Oh, now I get it -- the Soho Indians.
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Those Christians back then preyed real hard, and in the end, they got what they wanted. Lesson: If things aren't working out for ya, just prey harder.
Yep. Get more prey and be well fed.
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What has NAMBLA got to do with anything? You willing to nail NAMBLA at the expense of everything else?
point being they are a tiny minority trying to force their will on the vast majority......who do not agree with them.
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point being they are a tiny minority trying to force their will on the vast majority......who do not agree with them.
So are the axe murderers, rapists, etc, etc. What is so special about them besides they are perps?
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Oh, now I get it -- the Soho Indians.
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So are the axe murderers, rapists, etc, etc. What is so special about them besides they are perps?
randomly selected minority that would love to force their idea to be accepted by the majority that does not agree with them.....could easily be substituted with the beastiality people...the socialists...or even the skinhead movement. Your choice. its an example....

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