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Old 04-19-2006, 02:58 PM
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yeah yeah yeah..now tell me how they walk on water and their poop don't stink.
Illegal immigrants need to be sent back to the country that they have a legal right to reside in period. They are law breakers period.
Hey Mr. Chris, you want fries with that? Can I super size you? Oh, wait . . . holy **it, the INS, er Homeland Security guys are coming! Run fellas . . .

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Old 04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
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When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in Tampa, do as the ____________.
as the que-tips (old folks) do.
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Old 04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
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If it stays drier much longer that's one expense you wont have to bear.
No kidding. For a while, it looked like last night's electrical storm was going to burn it down.

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Either that or the "pesky porkers" trample it to dirt.
It's the rooting that's destructive. Some of my pastures look like I ran a disk through them...not a good thing for bermudagrass.
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
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I am not sure to apologize for hijacking this thread or not.....

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It's the rooting that's destructive. Some of my pastures look like I ran a disk through them...not a good thing for bermudagrass.
Damnit, R Leo, everytime your pig problem gets mentioned here, I begin thinking I can offer a solution. I have had great success in the varmint eliminating category with muskrats (chlorine pucks and brake fluid), feral dogs (electrocution), raccoons (traps), beavers (reel traps, rifles, and er, explosives) and other vermin, but have never had (what I formerly thought) was the pleasure to eliminate wild hogs.

Apparently the experts agree, it's a *****:
http://wildlifedamage.unl.edu/handbook/handbook/allPDF/mam_d65.pdf

If nothing else, there seem to be some helpful trapping hints in this handbook. I felt sure a search would turn up some type of homegrown solution, but I haven't found anything. Twer it me, I would shoot every one I could and hopefully they will develop some sort of pavlovian avoidance. I don't know if they are capable of that, but whitetails, coons, ect... certainly are.

Texas needs to do what Louisiana has done with Nutria and put a bounty on the filthy animals.

OR....here's my brainstorm solution that I didn't see in the handbook: Why not call A&M or Miss. State, Clemson, NC State, ect... and ask about birth control in bait? They have been doing this to control whitetail populations on East Coast islands for years (with no shortage of controversy).

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Old 04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
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Yeah, right....the illegal immigrants that need to be sent back are the ones that arrived after July 13, 1584.

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Good call... that's the one. I went to HS in Tampa many moons ago, and forgot its exact name. That place was a pit (or so I heard)!
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:48 PM
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Damnit, R Leo, everytime your pig problem gets mentioned here, I begin thinking I can offer a solution. I have had great success in the varmint eliminating category with muskrats (chlorine pucks and brake fluid), feral dogs (electrocution), raccoons (traps), beavers (reel traps, rifles, and er, explosives) and other vermin, but have never had (what I formerly thought) was the pleasure to eliminate wild hogs.

Apparently the experts agree, it's a *****:
http://wildlifedamage.unl.edu/handbook/handbook/allPDF/mam_d65.pdf

If nothing else, there seem to be some helpful trapping hints in this handbook. I felt sure a search would turn up some type of homegrown solution, but I haven't found anything. Twer it me, I would shoot every one I could and hopefully they will develop some sort of pavlovian avoidance. I don't know if they are capable of that, but whitetails, coons, ect... certainly are.

Texas needs to do what Louisiana has done with Nutria and put a bounty on the filthy animals.

OR....here's my brainstorm solution that I didn't see in the handbook: Why not call A&M or Miss. State, Clemson, NC State, ect... and ask about birth control in bait? They have been doing this to control whitetail populations on East Coast islands for years (with no shortage of controversy).

Oh well, back to reviewing contracts for a business i don't understand

I haven't done a lot of research but, AFIK, large-scale trapping is the most effective means of control so far. FWIW, we're building a trap this weekend. It's a huge SOB made from heavy welded cattle panel and closely spaced t-posts...should be able to nab 20-30 oinkers at a snap according to the TPWD Game Wardens.

Like you, I thought that a bit of hunting pressure (or simply our being out there) would make them choose a less inhabited location. Apparently not...

Thank Gawd, wild pigs don't look like Bambi and don't frequently show up in urban yards (although, I did see two nosing around in downtown Rockdale one night about 9:00) so the uninformed human populace is less smitten with protecting their gnarly hides. BTW, a $5/head bounty would probably break the bank...
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Apparently Hawaii and Qld., Australia are the leading govt entities dealing with the problem from my brief search. They are on the verge of creating some effective poisons that are phosphorous based and can be put into fermented grain bait that you bury, so that non-target animals don't get harmed.

Good luck with the trappin' The only drawback I read about trappinig, is that some pigs are simply 'trap shy.'
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:57 PM
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BTW, a $5/head bounty would probably break the bank...
When X amount of $ have been paid out on the nutria , no mas bounty.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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Good luck with the trappin' The only drawback I read about trappinig, is that some pigs are simply 'trap shy.'
Oh yeah, I'm positive that you only catch the stupid pigs after that trap door slams a couple of times.

I know this may sound like a double standard but, I'm not for poisoning. To me, that is an inhumane process and I prefer not having anything to do with it. I won't trap unless I have I have a plan for their humane disposal.
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Yeah, the phosphorous poison they are developing was in response to a more 'humane' poisoning programme in Queensland. Seems like there alot of helicopter guns for hire there too.

I learned my lesson on poisoning with some possums that crawled up into a wall to die. You may create a coyote problem if you poisoned them, which I didn't think about before.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:47 PM
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It's the rooting that's destructive. Some of my pastures look like I ran a disk through them...not a good thing for bermudagrass.
I'd of thought you'd be trying your hand at some of that super-special Timothy grass I keep hearing about. I might know where you could get some seed .
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What is it about poisoning that initiates revulsion? I don't even care for rat poison and rats are extremely dangerous to health and destructive of property.

My solution a couple of years ago to neighborhood rats was a catch and release plan on Texas rat snakes. Brought 3 females and a male, all over 4 ft, from Kisatchie and turned them loose in my backyard. The rat population has never recovered, but I haven't told my neighbors why.

I guess for swine control you'd need really large reticulated pythons? That might be a bit more solution than folks could stand.

Or you could import a couple of famblies of cajuns. Tell them the rice and cayenne will be supplied. Also better not look when they put kidney beans in their pork chili.

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Old 04-19-2006, 05:55 PM
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I'd of thought you'd be trying your hand at some of that super-special Timothy grass I keep hearing about. I might know where you could get some seed .
Yeah, Moody has evaporated - no pun- ...haven't heard from him in a while. IF (really big IF) it rains, I'll go get some of his cuttin's and see if I can get it to grow at BHF.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:57 PM
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What is it about poisoning that initiates revulsion? I don't even care for rat poison and rats are extremely dangerous to health and destructive of property.

My solution a couple of years ago to neighborhood rats was a catch and release plan on Texas rat snakes. Brought 3 females and a male, all over 4 ft, from Kisatchie and turned them loose in my backyard. The rat population has never recovered, but I haven't told my neighbors why.

I guess for swine control you'd need really large reticulated pythons? That might be a bit more solution than folks could stand.

Or you could import a couple of famblies of cajuns. Tell them the rice and cayenne will be supplied. Also better not look when they put kidney beans in their pork chili.

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