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Lebenz · #31 04-16-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmerich

Don't know the depths but I would guess less than 10,000 feet. You are right, they could do an underground blast in one of their wells designed for that purpose. It won't contaminate the reservoir for any appreciable area. Its not just a big pool down there. And there are no fumes. The only way to get oil to burn in the ground is to inject air into a well. This is called a fireflood. Its been tried a few times for secondary recovery purposes, but rarely works. It is basically an on or off deal, can't be controlled, and has a tendency to melt the tubulars in the wells.

A little reading revealed that water is pumped into many wells. Would a nuke blast free oxygen and hydrogen and provide more than enough to light off a massive oil and natural gas fueled explosion?

Lebenz · #32 04-16-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MedMech

Regarding W nuking the oil, if one thing is for sure in life it is death, taxes and W will never do anything to harm a single drop of oil.

While he clearly values oil over human life, I question any bounds that folks would suppose upon him. His actions demonstrate callous disregard…

Lebenz · #33 04-16-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MedMech

http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=mj99larin

Very good article. Thanks for finding and posting it!

Emmerich · #34 04-16-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lebenz

A little reading revealed that water is pumped into many wells. Would a nuke blast free oxygen and hydrogen and provide more than enough to light off a massive oil and natural gas fueled explosion?

Nope. It would just turn the rock to glass (obsidian). I am no nuclear expert, but I can pretty much gurantee any nuclear blast would totally dominate anything you could put in the ground. Think of it this way: if you set off a nuke above a tank farm (oil storage) the blast would vaporize everything so having it there makes no difference.

Lebenz · #35 04-16-2006, 12:11 PM

I’m not so certain. I agree with your model of an oil tank farm and a small nuke, but an oil tank farm contains a very tiny fraction of the explosive materials that a well does. It’s way out of my league so all I can do is to speculate based on my nightmare. There is a member here that is a nuclear physicist. Perhaps he will chime in…

Lebenz · #36 04-16-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

I'm just hoping that the French, Spanish and Belgians seize the initiative on this emerging danger to peace.

What do you think they might do?

Emmerich · #37 04-16-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lebenz

I’m not so certain. I agree with your model of an oil tank farm and a small nuke, but an oil tank farm contains a a very tiny fraction of the explosive materials that a well does. It’s way out of my league so all I can do is to speculate based on my nightmare. There is a member here that is a nuclear physicist. Perhaps he will chime in…

I am a petroleum enginner and I know how difficult it is to get oil out of the ground normally. Oil and gas exist in the pore spaces of the rock, not in pools. There is no free oxygen. which is needed for combustion. A nuclear explosion is not a combustible explosion like TNT or gasoline. It is completely different.

Like I said in a previous post, we have set off nukes here hoping to INCREASE oil production by fracturing the rock, so it is obviously not a doomsday device in that regard.

boneheaddoctor · #38 04-16-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by koop

I believe he was refering to the Yom Kippur war in which Israel was ganged up on by more than one country. Israel proceeded to crack open a drum of industrial strength whupass and had to be pulled off of those fools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

You are right I forgot about that one....but still as an ally we have their backs if they need it. Got to respect Ireal. They are a real tough bunch.

boneheaddoctor · #39 04-16-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmerich

I am a petroleum enginner and I know how difficult it is to get oil out of the ground normally. Oil and gas exist in the pore spaces of the rock, not in pools. There is no free oxygen. which is needed for combustion. A nuclear explosion is not a combustible explosion like TNT or gasoline. It is completely different.

Like I said in a previous post, we have set off nukes here hoping to INCREASE oil production by fracturing the rock, so it is obviously not a doomsday device in that regard.

only thing being getting to it if the ground around it is radioactively hot. That would be a pretty effictive quarantine of the only thing of any real value in that area.