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John Doe 06-26-2006 10:14 AM

MB Shop Sailors--Van der Stadt '27?
 
I am going to look at a boat this morning. Supposedly a Dutch-built Van der Stadt '27 fiberglass, stepped mast, 4' fixed keel. Assuming sloop rigged, but may be a cutter. The guy that has it for sale must have Alzheimers or something--he doesn't remember talking to me yesterday and told me the boat was built in 1927 (it is an '86). I know Van der Stadt licensed designs and is a famous custom spec. Does anybody know anything about the ones built by the factory? TIA.

koop 06-26-2006 09:12 PM

How did it look?

Zeitgeist 06-26-2006 10:10 PM

Hey thaylor, tell uth some more about yer big boat...big guy.

John Doe 06-26-2006 10:28 PM

Er, ok Z, pour another one and get straightened out.....

I found out a lot about these boats on the 'net today.

The boat was suprising. Old couple that showed up in a gold 350 SDL that was immaculate. The boat was in a warehouse and had been painted with Interlux 2 years ago and left on the hard. No blisters, chalking or any other signs of neglect other than the teak. They ordered the boat from the VDS yard in 1986 and picked it up at the port of new orleans (one owner). The interior is mahogany with a V-berth, two salon benches and a morge-bunk aft on the port side of the engine. Little galley with an icebox, no head. Has an 18 hp SAAB diesel which has 1500 hours. All window gaskets in tact and no mildew inside. Running and standing rigging in order. Sloop rigged, stepped mast, 4 ft. 900 lb keel. The gentleman had had a stroke 2 years ago. The boat was in a warehouse they owned and they tried to sell me several duplexes they owned in the area too. Sad really.

I think it is worth 10-12K--they want 4K for it......


Comes with a 4 wheel heavy duty trailer and cradle which is probably worth 2K by themselves. I am going to take them a check tomorrow.

Wish I could have gotten it 4 months ago cause it would be sailing on the 4th of July on the Chesapeake.

Botnst 06-26-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe
Er, ok Z, pour another one and get straightened out.....

I found out a lot about these boats on the 'net today.

The boat was suprising. Old couple that showed up in a gold 350 SDL that was immaculate. The boat was in a warehouse and had been painted with Interlux 2 years ago and left on the hard. No blisters, chalking or any other signs of neglect other than the teak. They ordered the boat from the VDS yard in 1986 and picked it up at the port of new orleans (one owner). The interior is mahogany with a V-berth, two salon benches and a morge-bunk aft on the port side of the engine. Little galley with an icebox, no head. Has an 18 hp SAAB diesel which has 1500 hours. All window gaskets in tact and no mildew inside. Running and standing rigging in order. Sloop rigged, stepped mast, 4 ft. 900 lb keel. The gentleman had had a stroke 2 years ago. The boat was in a warehouse they owned and they tried to sell me several duplexes they owned in the area too. Sad really.

I think it is worth 10-12K--they want 4K for it......


Comes with a 4 wheel heavy duty trailer and cradle which is probably worth 2K by themselves. I am going to take them a check tomorrow.

Wish I could have gotten it 4 months ago cause it would be sailing on the 4th of July on the Chesapeake.

You express no guilt at being interested in such a aristocratic craft. You are therefore condemned to proletarian hell.

John Doe, where will you keep such a beautiful boat, Ross Barnett? Pass Christian? I can't imagine you leaving it up there near the arctic circle and visiting it 1-2 times per year in your mukluks for a couple of weeks.

B

Zeitgeist 06-26-2006 11:14 PM

Did I mention that I too am an athpiring thaylor, but for now I prefer to purchath a boat that can be towed behind my marthedes benth? Thounds like a very nithe boat; a boat which I'd purchath in a heartbeat...I mean that from the depthths of my thoul.

koop 06-26-2006 11:48 PM

sounds outstanding. We have an O'Day Daysailer.

John Doe 06-27-2006 10:48 AM

Bot, I have a friend with a place at Gulf Shores, AL and was thinking of dragging it down there. I will keep it close by for the rest of the summer to get the bright work and other odds and ends straightened out. The old woman told a neat story about the longshoremen that unloaded the vessel: she said the boat was blocking the rest of the unloading and the men were restless. The had to get a special crane with straps to offload it, and the men were yelling to dump it in the water. She said they drove right up to the ship and blasted the horn and got them calmed down. Fiesty old broad.

koop, I spent a lot of time on a '28 O'Day in Chas., SC. Very similar layout to the one I just got, but didn't have a stepped mast. I'm guessing your daysailor has a similar rig to mine.

Z, where are you vacationing this week?

Carleton Hughes 06-27-2006 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Did I mention that I too am an athpiring thaylor, but for now I prefer to purchath a boat that can be towed behind my marthedes benth? Thounds like a very nithe boat; a boat which I'd purchath in a heartbeat...I mean that from the depthths of my thoul.

Only the best seamen for your boat,eh?

Zeitgeist 06-27-2006 01:11 PM

I shall be vacationing -drinks in hand- in the backyard of my one acre palatial estate, no doubt suffering the slings and bottlerockets proffered by the dumbasses residing down the way.

In a couple weeks my dad and his girlfriend will be temporarily returning home from a year long Caribbean cruise aboard their CSY WO 44. I'm sure they'll have some great stories to tell.

John Doe 06-27-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist

In a couple weeks my dad and his girlfriend will be temporarily returning home from a year long Caribbean cruise aboard their CSY WO 44. I'm sure they'll have some great stories to tell.

Are those things still in charter down there, or did they buy it after it did its hitch? I've always been interested in the concept.

edit: upon re-reading, I will surmise that since it was a year long cruise, the boat is no longer in charter.

Zeitgeist 06-27-2006 01:33 PM

They bought it down in Panama. I think they paid less for it than the sale price of the Catalina 32 they sold prior to moving down there. Apparently it's quite a vessel--very comfortable and capable.

John Doe 06-27-2006 01:40 PM

Yeah, they are very popular with cruisers. CSY were built and sold through the factory with no dealers, and had to be put in charter for a certain period of time when you bought one. As they were being put into charter, they had to be built under supervision of Llloyd's so they have reputation for being very tough. I got to meet Peter Scmitt who designed them (and the WO) for several years when he lived in Chas., SC for a short while. Similar idea as Morgan, but much better boat, imo.

Hatterasguy 06-27-2006 09:09 PM

I am not familer with them. But like any old sailboat, how old are the sails and standing rigging. $4k for an inboard diesel sailboat is hard to beat!

crash9 06-28-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
$4k for an inboard diesel sailboat is hard to beat!

Not really. Sounds like he knows boats so maybe it goes without saying, but the price is just a down payment anyway. Since it's high and dry it would be hard to insure the shape of the motor, but that's the biggie on an older boat. You can generally get by with old canvas for a moment, but your going to replace everything sooner or later. With the trailer it seems like a go if the motor is OK.
I guess you went so share the experience with us. Sounds classy.


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