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Old 11-13-2006, 10:38 AM
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I drove a Q45 a couple of years ago. I think it was a late 1990's. The seller was asking in the low $20's. I have not driven a comparable S-class. But if the ride is better than that Q-45, the seats have to be made out of nekkid wimmen.
Since my wife is down on the Gwagon thing now, our next car new car is going to be a Nissan Armada or Qx56. We drove the Qx56 this weekend and it is unreal.


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I drove a Q45 a couple of years ago. I think it was a late 1990's. The seller was asking in the low $20's. I have not driven a comparable S-class. But if the ride is better than that Q-45, the seats have to be made out of nekkid wimmen.
And i trust you will do a scratch-n-sniff test to make sure the seats are made of "real" nekkid wimmen?
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:42 PM
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How true. I've probably put about $1500+ of purchased parts on my older SLC in the last year, maybe more I don't keep track. Suspension, steering, A/C, rotors/pads, ps pump, ect.... Still needs some exhaust, flex disk, timing chain(soon), and then whatever else pops ups.

If I had to pay labor costs that would have amounted to triple or more the parts costs. As long as I can repair myself, I'm willing to foot the bills. Otherwise I'd have to reconsider it's value vs. expenses vs. enjoyment
I think most people are not capable of doing these types of repairs on their own, nor do they have the time or the tools.
I am still hanging onto my MB cause I am hoping that the last thing that broke will be the last thing that breaks (wishful thinking).
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:52 PM
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That depends on how much one's time is worth.
Amen.

The shop rates around here --dealer and good MB indys--are $80-85 per hr. My free time has a greater value to me than that.

Plus, I no longer derive any particular satisfaction from changing oil, shocks, etc. Been there...many times.

My 88CE with 88,250 on it gets dealer serviced every 7,500.
Accidents aside, the only thing I would flinch about repairing would be the evaporator. That might be it's death knell.

The (imo) styling beauty of the 124c together with the (relative) simplicity of the M103 motor are intangibles which would tend to make me want to hold onto it as long as possible. I have averaged 9500 mi. per year in the 5 years I have owned it. Garaged since 88. No rust. Still looks (and runs) great. So, I'm willing to pay a little extra for good service and oversight.

I look at most repairs in terms of a monthly payment equivalent. New exhaust system equivalent to 4-5 monthly payments. New valve stem seals ($400) equivalent to 1 payment, etc. So, if average annual non-routine maintenance costs are less that 6-8 monthly payments, I'll probably hang in there.

I don't do what I don't do.
I don't fix cars. So, I don't try to be a car fixer!

But, I'm sure there are lots of forum members that are also DIYers on April 15!
I'm equally sure there are more that use trained professionals come tax time!

It's all relative fellas.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:53 PM
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It's all relative fellas.
I have messed around doing things on cars in the past when I ran little scca events and even got into messing around on my diesel (the primary reason I found this site), but I have found it isn't for me. If you like working on cars, it is like any other recreational activity. I don't like working on cars. From an economic standpoint alone, it would be absolutely stupid for me to sacrifice office time to fix my car.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:59 PM
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I bought an MB because they, unlike GM and Ford, don't obsolete their parts. Now, if the car is going to nickel and dime me to death, I'd drop it yesterday. However, once in a while is not that bad. If you have more than 1 car and you like tinkering as a hobby, go for it. If you want to drop it off at the dealership and pick it up when ready, keeping an older car is not for you
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:48 PM
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:19 PM
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Sometimes its just not worth it. Old cars are fun to mess with, but to get them to the point of reliable daily drivers takes a huge amount of time and money. It has to be a hobby.

From what I have seen, with most non car people when one thing breaks they think everything is going to break and trade up.

I started messing with MB's in highschool but as my life moves along, and my schedual gets more crazy I am finding a newer car looking better and better. Sure it may cost you more money, but you won't be spending 2-3 Sundays a month under the hood.

Everyone is different, depends on what you want.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:25 PM
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Sometimes its just not worth it. Old cars are fun to mess with, but to get them to the point of reliable daily drivers takes a huge amount of time and money. It has to be a hobby.

From what I have seen, with most non car people when one thing breaks they think everything is going to break and trade up.
The problem is that we are talking of a car with 150K and is 15 yrs old. When they see one large item break, say the tranny, they wonder if the rear end is next or if the engine itself it next. As such, they see a sinking ship and want to ditch it. They don't actually run any tests on the engine and open the rear end. That is a shame since if they did that, they would know for sure. I guess it is panic that sets in and clouds the judgment.

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