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Old 12-31-2006, 06:08 PM
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Course of colliding cultures cataclysmic

The global clash of emotions
Dominique Moïsi
Thursday, December 14, 2006
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Thirteen years ago, Samuel Huntington argued that a "clash of civilizations" was about to dominate world politics. Events since then have proved Huntington's vision more right than wrong. It would be more correct, however, to speak of a "clash of emotions." The Western world displays a culture of fear, the Arab and Muslim worlds are trapped in a culture of humiliation, and much of Asia displays a culture of hope.

The United States and Europe are divided by a common culture of fear. On both sides, one encounters, in varying degrees, a fear of the other, a fear of the future and a fundamental anxiety about the loss of identity and control over one's destiny in an increasingly complex world.

In the case of Europe, there is the fear of being invaded by the poor, primarily from the south. Europeans also fear being blown up by radical Islamists or being demographically conquered by them as their continent becomes a "Eurabia." Then there is the fear of being left behind economically. Finally, there is the fear of being ruled by an outside power, even a friendly one (such as the United States) or a faceless one (such as the European Commission).

Some of the same sense of loss of control is present in the United States. Demographic fears are mitigated, but they are clearly present. Americans do not fear economic decay the way Europeans do (although they worry about outsourcing). Yet they, too, are thinking of decline — in their bodies, with the plague of obesity; in their budgets, with the huge deficits; and in their spirit, with the loss of appetite for foreign adventures and a growing questioning of national purpose. And of course after 9/11, Americans are obsessed with security.

Whereas Europeans try to protect themselves from the world through a combination of escapism and appeasement, Americans try to do so by dealing with the problem at its source abroad. But behind the Bush administration's forceful and optimistic rhetoric lies the somber reality that the U.S. response to 9/11 has made the United States more unpopular than ever. The U.S. intervention in Iraq, for example, has generated more problems than it has solved.

The Muslim world, meanwhile, has been obsessed with decay for centuries. When Europe was in its Middle Ages, Islam was at its apogee, but when the Western Renaissance started, Islam began its inexorable fall.

Muslims saw the creation of the state of Israel in the midst of Arab land as the ultimate proof of their decline. For Jews, the legitimacy of Israel was manifold; it combined the accomplishment of a religious promise, the realization of a national destiny, and compensation by the international community for a unique crime, the Holocaust. For Arabs, by contrast, it was the anachronistic imposition of a Western colonial logic at the very moment decolonization was getting under way.

The unresolved conflict between Israel and its neighbors has helped turn the culture of humiliation into a culture of hatred. Over time, the conflict's national character has shifted to its original religious basis — a conflict between Muslims and Jews, if not a clash between Islam and the West at large.

The combination of the deepening civil war in Iraq and the fighting in Lebanon between Hezbollah and Israel has reinforced a sense of outrage in many Muslims that has been fully exploited by Iran and its allies. And globalization, with its expansion of the gap between economic winners and losers, has contributed to the problem.

The culture of humiliation extends to the Muslim diaspora in the West as well. The riots in France during the autumn of 2005, for example, had an essentially socioeconomic origin, but they were also a lashing out by the disaffected against a society that claims to give them equal rights in principle but fails to do so in practice.

As the West and the Middle East lock horns, confidence in progress has been moving eastward. After two centuries of relative decline, China is recovering its legitimate international status. Its policy of concentrating on economic development while avoiding conflict seems to be earning Beijing both material benefits and international respect. As for India, for the first time in its modern history it has stepped onto the world stage as both an independent and an important power. Difficulties abound for both, but the optimism today is real and seems likely to last as long as growth continues.

Given the global clash of emotions, the first priority for the West must be to recognize the nature of the threat that the Muslim world's culture of humiliation poses to Europe and the United States. Neither appeasement nor force alone will suffice. The war that is unfolding is one that the culture of humiliation cannot win, but it is a war nonetheless and one that the West can lose by continuing to be divided or by betraying its liberal values and its respect for law and the individual. The challenge is not figuring out how to play moderate Islam against the forces of radicalism. It is figuring out how to encourage a sufficient sense of hope and progress in Muslim societies so that despair and anger do not send the masses into the radicals' arms.

In that regard, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict appears more than ever as a microcosm of what the world is becoming. Israel is the West, surrounded by the culture of humiliation and dreaming of escape from a dangerous region and of re-entry into a culture of hope. But it must find a solution to the Palestinian problem first, or else the escape will not be possible. So, too, Europe and America seek to permanently banish their fears but will be able to do so only by finding a way to help the Muslim world solve its problems.

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This is truly a NEW YEARS statement, Mr Bot. Congrats!

Praised will be the true peacemakers!
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This is truly a NEW YEARS statement, Mr Bot. Congrats!

Praised will be the true peacemakers!
I enjoy reading various analyses, whether I agree with them or not.

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Old 01-01-2007, 12:50 AM
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Some keep their heads leveled, some end up in a sling.

It makes it so nice and clear. And simple.

"Anti-American" is for those who got the pants full. Period.
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:22 AM
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Some keep their heads leveled, some end up in a sling.

It makes it so nice and clear. And simple.

"Anti-American" is for those who got the pants full. Period.
Huh?
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:34 AM
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Don't ya pull that one on me, now!

I'ma gonna go an' blow up...relax...the corck on mi bottle and throw myself in the midst of the party.
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:07 AM
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So, now?

I think it's an excellent article, balanced and objective, radiating a sense of equality.
Many of those hostile and biased writers may have a lesson to learn, which ofcourse is never going to happen.

But we keep trying.
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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So, now?

I think it's an excellent article, balanced and objective, radiating a sense of equality.
Many of those hostile and biased writers may have a lesson to learn, which ofcourse is never going to happen.

But we keep trying.
How do you know it is balanced and objective and fair?

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Fair is another stage, it may have to do with judging, which is exactly what I sense this article tries to avoid and which in my view is important.
Once judgement starts it goes from tens to hundreds to thousands etc.

The view presented in this article, tries to unite at least on one point, which is the one thing we all have in common. We all have problems.
They might be of a different nature and intensity, we're all being bothered by something. Noone is excluded.

Now, that doesn't mean that we all should come together with the intent to solve each others problems, but recognizing the same already helps a lot.

One aspect is to recognize a certain unity between US and Europe rather than driving separation. These are the highly developed nations who need to be capable of containing cultural escalations.
Whereby Americans are often unaware of the face value of Muslim integration and presence throughout Europe already.

The following exerpt describes objectively the pivotal magnitude, just remember your own example, 'the rock on the mountain top'

Muslims saw the creation of the state of Israel in the midst of Arab land as the ultimate proof of their decline. For Jews, the legitimacy of Israel was manifold; it combined the accomplishment of a religious promise, the realization of a national destiny, and compensation by the international community for a unique crime, the Holocaust. For Arabs, by contrast, it was the anachronistic imposition of a Western colonial logic at the very moment decolonization was getting under way.

The unresolved conflict between Israel and its neighbors has helped turn the culture of humiliation into a culture of hatred. Over time, the conflict's national character has shifted to its original religious basis — a conflict between Muslims and Jews, if not a clash between Islam and the West at large.


Another true paragraph taken:

The combination of the deepening civil war in Iraq and the fighting in Lebanon between Hezbollah and Israel has reinforced a sense of outrage in many Muslims that has been fully exploited by Iran and its allies. And globalization, with its expansion of the gap between economic winners and losers, has contributed to the problem.


Three factors are very eminent in this article and I truly believe those a re very real:

1. The Hope Factor
2. The Fear Factor
3. The Humiliation Factor

It seems to be well on target alocating those factors, those factors are serious and need to be addressed, awarness needs to be created without accusation.

Most publicists fail to accomplish this, probably because of lack of intention.
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Adding on:

Created terms like 'Anti-Americanism' or 'Islamo-Fascism' are highly and fundamentally inflammatory in this global situation. (just to name a few)

I'd like to bring this on, it may or may not help to understand.
Taken from an older enzyclopedia, I'd say early 60's, the term "Fascism" is discribed as:
"denial or intolerance of another individuals way of thinking/understanding"

I had to translate this of the top of me weary head, but I assure this much: the language from which it derives takes credit for a genuine insight into the subject.
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Taken from an older enzyclopedia, I'd say early 60's, the term "Fascism" is discribed as:
"denial or intolerance of another individuals way of thinking/understanding"
This perfectly describes every modern leftist I have ever met.
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How do you know it is balanced and objective and fair?
It struck me as more balanced and fair than the faction that continually focuses on Palestinian suicide bombers to the exclusion of the considerable and dicey Jewish contribution to the dilemma.
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This perfectly describes every moden leftist I have ever met.
I won't deny there's been a lot of that about in the lefty crowd, in some quarters anyway. OTOH, listen to Limbaugh and Hannity. Them dudes are no slouches in the "denial or intolerance of another individuals way of thinking/understanding" dept. And then there's GFY Dick Cheney.

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