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Old 01-08-2007, 08:58 AM
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I had two Civic hatchbacks. One a little old ladies car, 1987 with 37K miles on it, bought in 1997 for £400, sold in 1998 for £500...only problem was wires and muffler fixed before sale.

Second was a 1991 with 202K miles bought in 2004. Only problem was muffler again. Didn't have time to fix her. Katrina got there first (or rather Lake Ponchartrain)

I'd buy one again, except I'm hooked on old MB diesels now.

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Old 01-08-2007, 11:57 AM
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Congrats on the new car. Did you consider waiting for the Diesel Accord to get here? I may well break down and get one when they arrive.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:55 PM
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Congrats on the new car. Did you consider waiting for the Diesel Accord to get here? I may well break down and get one when they arrive.
That is what we are waiting for, however, at this point in my life with children headed out the door in a few years I would rather just have a Civic with a diesel.
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:59 PM
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Considered waiting for the diesel but it won't be imported until 2009. Plus the markup will be ridiculous. I tried to just SIT in a Civic this summer. No one would let me sit in one because they were all sold. And I;m not going to buy a car I have not thoroughly test driven.
I very seriously looked at hybrids but the payoff is 7-12 years based on $2.75a gallon on some of them.
The Accord Hybrid is a joke. EPA mileage is only 4 MPG better. But it way out accelerates the V-6. Its not a Hybrid, it's an electric boosted gas engine.

The main reason for buying the 4 cylinder Accord is it is Number 1 in reliability even over the V-6 in the Consumers Report books. And I'm really tired of working on the cars that are daily drivers. I prefer a more leisure approach. I work on it when I want not because I need it tomorrow.

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Old 01-08-2007, 11:11 PM
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JBach--

You seriously don't think 1986-current domestics can last 80-100k miles?

The Taurus came in 1986, and I can't think of any domestic that has made more of an impact in the last 20 years. Maybe the 300 Chrysler, but then that's going full-circle and putting RWD back into a midsize, so there's going to be some hoopla.

Ralph, a 1987 Taurus, had 180k when dad decided I needed a new car-- it was as new.

Mother's 1989 Tempo(affectionately called Woody by the family-- My sis wrecked it and they put a 4x4 on the front bumper supports to embarass her into not futzing with the stereo while in traffic) went quite a few further, to be left on the side of the interstate at 240k miles.

You're making false arguments here-- just because one is good does not mean the other has to be bad.

Congrats on the new car! Have you named him/her yet?
Well the early Taurus was certainly the first jellybean car and got a lot of attention. They got cheaper every year thereafter, I had them for company cars for years. Probably put around 750,000 miles on a laundry list of them, running 65,000 miles or so per year. First one had a 4 cylinder Tempo motor. The single worst car I have every had the displeasure to operate. My company blew countless transmissions in them, etc. Still remember some "dude" at JiffyLube with pink fingernails and eye shadow wandering out with my pan from the transmission showing me the magnet, which looked like a metal chia pet, it could hold no more and the shavings were all over the place, oh well, under 40,000 all highway and cruise control.

Currently my company has punted all Ford Taurus' and replaced with the Accord. Fuel mileage up 7 mpg for the fleet, resale up about $5,000, maintenance zero etc. But these Hondas are cheaper too than they were in the 80's. This 4 cylinder Accord will get up and do, a lot better than the base 6 cylinder Ford. Oh did I mention that the last Ford I had the engine caught on fire at under 4,000 miles, that was a mess 100 miles from home Friday 3PM on a Holiday weekend with outside temp of 103 degrees. That too may have something to do with my poor attitude. Had another one first day I got it, drove it out of state, sitting at a light adjusted the rearview mirror and cracked the windshield. Dealer said no way, took a look at it had a Ford Rep in at the same time they all took a look and replaced it. Odd inside sheet of class cracked right there, outside sheet perfect. And there was the one Mercury Sable I had that with about 11,000 miles and the brakes started sticking and the pedal would not come up. Was in Chicago that week and before I got back I had perfected the use of the left foot to lift the pedal whenever I braked. That's the same car that I was notified was in at the dealer, then they never called me to get it, recalled before I ever got it, about a 6 week delay there. It also had the solid light bar between the headlights and always had shorts in it, looked like a Jack-O-Lantern, had to contantly go out and mess with the connections.

Did I mention I like my Accord. Sorry, INeon for the flood there, but that is a touchy subject with me. I think I had one that did not have to do the rotors on, no that was a Lumina, sorry.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:32 PM
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The main reason for buying the 4 cylinder Accord is it is Number 1 in reliability even over the V-6 in the Consumers Report books. And I'm really tired of working on the cars that are daily drivers. I prefer a more leisure approach. I work on it when I want not because I need it tomorrow.
Dave

Yeah thats how I feel! I'm looking forward to turning wrenching into a hobby I do when I feel like it, vs I need to get to school tomarrow.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:53 PM
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The Taurus 4-Cylinder did not use a Tempo engine(maybe, but rebored over to 2.5 v. 2.3 for a Tempo) as far as I know. My Ralph was a 2.5, which is crazy, because it was an LX model with ALL the trim and computer doodads. Don't think I've ever seen another one just like it-- was my first car, and naturally I was attached hehe

I've known too many people that had spare Honda parts lying around to think they're anything but normal cars. They do have trim issues and they do need repairs. Why is my friends 80k 2000 Accord on it's second transmission, why do it's window seals whistle and why does it hunt to find a steady idle?

They've never impressed me--

My Father does work in the steel industry, though-- that may explain it a bit.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:37 AM
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I have a V6 Accord close to 525,000+ miles bought in 93, don't think the engine has any reliability issues, now at this mileage my compression is still well within specs, only thing I may need is newer valve guides but then thats to be expected at this mileage for a gasser.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:24 AM
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I think it was back in '84 I was fed up with fixing my Mom's old junk Tempest and suggested she just go buy a Honda. She bought 2 Civic Hatchbacks, one for her and one for my little sister.

My sister still has hers and still drives it! Mom's was sold to guy down the street and is still on the road too! I have no idea how many miles these two Honda's have been driven....it is just amazing. Litttle Tonka Toy cars still rolling around town.

Tough to go wrong with a Honda.

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