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I have seen people get red tagged for bad igniters, I have seen people call because of a water heater issue and get the furnace red tagged; I have seen vice versa. If you change the water heater you have to change anything attached to it that is not compliant with current code. |
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In our jurisdiction, plumber's don't red tag anything, the utility company or building inspector does.
The question is whether there was a code violation or not. The simple fact that a vent is behind drywall can't violate a code in and of itself.
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There is no grandfathering for safety issues via the National Fire Code; the plumber may not red tag a house or appliance but it is his responsibility to report it.
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your first sentence is true of course, and i never said otherwise. second sentence is true, and i never said otherwise. third sentence is true, and i never said otherwise. his post talked of a power vent, which i have never heard of and sounded bogus to me. as it turns out it was. tom w
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In my school trained and previous profession.....sort of. As you know the NFPA encompasses everything from building code to medical equipment safety standards. |
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come to think of it i had an external power vent on the million btu input boiler in my old office building.
but i don't think i have seen one on a water heater. i think i am going to go to bed before i get cranky. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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To be honest I have not seen a water heater without a power vent in years. |
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he was talking of an add on. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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I think it is better called a 'draft inducer' than a power vent.
As you know,this fan's function is to draw combustion air into the burner chamber, and then force the exhaust gas with its products of combustion out the vent. This 'draft' must be induced by mechanical means because high-efficiency is achieved by keeping this combustion flow in contact with the heat exchanger longer, removing more of the 'heat' and resulting in a much lower temperature of the exhaust gas. Low temperature gas does not produce as much flow by convection, since the cooler gas is less buoyant and moves slower. Without some means to move this gas along fast enough, the exhaust gases, including the very nasty carbon monoxide, can leak into the surrounding air. The combustion process of high-efficiency water heaters is quite similar to that of high-efficiency forced-air furnaces. I agree that adding an external power vent should not be needed for an existing heater, or a new heater unless it includes an external inducer fan as part of the installation kit. |
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I had a power vent on a tankless water heater. It's fan in the vent that drives the exhaust from combustion out the side of the house rather than letting it naturally rise through a traditional vent. It's wired into the burner so that it comes one when the burner ignites. Power vent doesn't come on, burner wont ignite. (I think)
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i have seen them used in high effeciency furnaces where the heat exchanger is extra convoluted and wont draft properly by gravity. i don't think i have seen any that were add ons. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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1. Get a second opinion 2. Get it inspected. 3. Don't go cheap on anything that emits carbon monoxide. |
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