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cmac2012 · #46 01-15-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuan

We all have those moments.

My friend Adam works one day a week. His first year was hellacious, but he paid off all his student loans during that year. You do, however, lose your 20's.

Oh man, 'I know the looking back at schooling' wistfully angle.

When I wrote the computer program I mentioned on the "rate of growth" thread, it was '84 -- I was 32. I was at Evergreen State in OlyWA -- Z's alma mater -- I was taking calculus and other math with a cool dude from Boston w/ a dry sense of humor. At Evergreen, they have no grades, it's all evaluations. He joked with us that he had to get his thesaurus out to do them. He said in mine that I was the most talented math student he'd encountered at Evergreen. Of coures, the Green is not a magnet for the sciences and he was in his second year there, but still, better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

My computer teacher told me that my program, written in Pascal, now mostly defunct, was good and that I should seriously consider a career in computer science.

So did cmac take this opportunity to get in on the coming personal computer revolution?? Are you kidding? I had major tip-toe-ing through the tulips still to chase down.

I mean, they say regret is the mafia of the mind, and things could certainly be worse. But oh man, I could sure go down the 'squandered opportunities path' with you.

aklim · #47 01-15-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

The managers of HMOs don't do that much of the work that makes the whole operation possible and profitable. They are is sort of a gate-keeper position, where the money to make the whole thing work passes right by them. The temptation to route ever bigger chunks of that money off to them is a strong one. Some of the big investment bankers and stock-brokers are in a similar position. The money these people siphon off is often way out of proportion to the actual useful work or service they add to the equation.

And this govt. involvement you speak of is not real involvement at all. It's a major gift to the insurance companies with govt. as enforcer.

The money comes from the people anyway but less of it is actually devoted to medical care than might, the word is might, be possible under some evolved single payer system.

You wanna do it and tell us how much your salary would be? I used to think running a business was "Buy Low, Sell High.". Running my own was a rude shock from that. Ever wonder why they have those "Be your own boss" or "Fire your boss" ads? Because they sound good. When you have worked yourself to that position, please tell me that you would take a very modest salary of say $200K and refuse more.

Exactly. The people are getting socked and they do deserve it too. You called for the devil to take care of your problems and now the devil is doing other things that you don't like. Too bad. Too sad. You lose. This involvement started way back when not today. Think more in lines of medicare and medicaid. Think more in lines of you asking them to make sure that people with no money get medical treatment. Think back not recent. They got involved back then and now they do other things. Look at NY. They banned trans fats in restaurants. Should they have done that? Yes and No. They are doing it because trans fats cause health problems. Health problems raise health care costs. You involved them in health care and therefore they are now doing what they can to cut costs. Should I have the right to eat what I choose? Yes and No. Yes I should. No because I surrendered my rights when I asked someone to take care of it for me. Living with my parents, I had everything paid for. Now I have to pay for it myself. However, living with my parents, I had to live by their rules. NILIF:= Nothing In Life Is Free.

See, once again, you want some sort of govt involvement. However, when this govt presents you with a huge bill for the services, you balk.Take a bill. It starts out with a single idea that is good. Wait till it gets to the President's desk for signing. Now you have a hostage situation. Within that good bill, others have stuffed all sorts of crap in it. So, the options are to sign it and have the other fluff in it or reject it and be labeled as someone who doesn't want good things for the people.

cmac2012 · #48 01-16-2007, 08:35 PM

If you worship at the idle of cash flow and wealth, your POV makes good sense. If you look more at the people who struggle to gain the skills to provide medical care -- actually hands on provide it -- doctors, nurses -- and the pains that the public takes to pay a fair price for their services, the notion of some bean counter, pencil pusher making 5 or 10 times what the top doctor makes is a bit obscene.

You can argue all you want about how it is their right. My point is that the overall health of a society decreases in direct proportion to the rise of this sort of crap.

Self made rich man Mayor Bloomberg of NYC is experimenting with a new form of a sort of welfare because studies have shown that when people sweat being able to afford medical care, they put off routine personal maintenance such that they end up being much less useful to their employers and their city when the inevitable result of such neglect results in major hospital bills/stays or disabling illness, etc.

Bill Frist and his family have become 9 figure rich folks based on HMO crap and look at what a soul-less creep Frist is.

t walgamuth · #49 01-16-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Well, can you ask her how much her malpractice insurance is? I know my wife is paying over $600 a year as an NP and that is if she doesn't practice as a midwife or in Ob-Gyn.

i would guess add two zeros and divide by two. just a guess. maybe not divide by two.

actually she works at a clinic owned by the hospital and so that is all part of the package. she collects a salary. she has her own list of patients and after about 1.5 years is making enough to allow them to make a small profit on her services. it is touch and go whether the hospital will continue to operate the clinic.

tom w

Dee8go · #50 01-16-2007, 09:43 PM

Everytime I pass by this thread I'm tempted to say this: ME TOO!

I wish I'd done better in school. Oh well!

aklim · #51 01-17-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

If you worship at the idle of cash flow and wealth, your POV makes good sense. If you look more at the people who struggle to gain the skills to provide medical care -- actually hands on provide it -- doctors, nurses -- and the pains that the public takes to pay a fair price for their services, the notion of some bean counter, pencil pusher making 5 or 10 times what the top doctor makes is a bit obscene.

Self made rich man Mayor Bloomberg of NYC is experimenting with a new form of a sort of welfare because studies have shown that when people sweat being able to afford medical care, they put off routine personal maintenance such that they end up being much less useful to their employers and their city when the inevitable result of such neglect results in major hospital bills/stays or disabling illness, etc.

Bill Frist and his family have become 9 figure rich folks based on HMO crap and look at what a soul-less creep Frist is.

I do look at those people. My wife got her RN licence in 97. Has been practicing as an RN since then and still is except that she does so a few Sundays a month lately. She is a NP. I drove her 70+ miles to school a couple days a week for 5 years so she could be an NP. I think you will agree that I have looked at people struggling to gain medical skills, won't you? I know her CEO makes more per month than she probably does a year. I don't begrudge him that money. If he can do it, more power to him. Also, note that my wife clocks out and her day is over. I don't think he can clock out. Now as an NP, my wife still has to hash and rehash her day to make sure that things go as she wants. Again, no clock out. I worked at this place where the VPs got the underground garage. Nice. At least till I saw the same cars there every weekend for quite a few hours on end and the lights in their office on.

Good luck to him. So far welfare has spawned generations of welfare dependent families. Lets see what this new socialistic idea will do. Even the socialists are starting to abandon socialism.

A soul might be something we can sell to the devil. Other than that, we can't eat it, spend it, trade it, or do much with it. That and $0.75 might get you a can of soda.

Kuan · #52 01-17-2007, 07:55 AM

On the flipside, you can be like my wife. Get an education, work 8-3 and get 5 weeks off per year.

Wouldn't trade that for the world.

Man I should have listened better in physics class.