well i think he eventually did but w and cheney just said..." he is obviously moving them around so there fore we must invade". (that is a paraphrase).

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IOW, the late Hussien broke his agreements which started this whole mess. The way I see it, if Hussien had said "You wanna look? Go ahead. See whatever you want at any time without giving prior notice or escorts. Go crazy." the team would have done it's job, given them a clean bill of health or ordered some material destroyed and sanctions would be lifted and life goes on, right?

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no. i don't think so. iirc the un team was in there looking and finally w just said well. he is obviously moving them around to avoid detection ...we attack.

i will dig out the book and look that part up.

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Iran and Nicaragua vow close ties
Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad kisses a little girl during a visit to the Cuba Libre neighbourhood of Managua
The Iranian leader is on a whirlwind tour of Latin America
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has pledged closer ties with Nicaragua as he continues his Latin America tour.

"We have common interests, common enemies and common goals", he said as he visited shantytowns in Managua with the Nicaraguan leader, Daniel Ortega.

Mr Ahmadinejad arrived in Nicaragua from Venezuela where he signed business agreements with President Hugo Chavez.

The Iranian president's visits are aimed at boosting ties with the region's most vocal critics of the US.

The aim is also to garner further support in the international debate over Iran's nuclear programme and its alleged interference in Iraq.

Washington's concern

Some of Latin America's leftist leaders are also keen to expand ties with oil-rich Iran, correspondents say.

This development has concerned Washington, which accuses Tehran of sponsoring terrorism and seeking to build a nuclear bomb, charges the Iranian government denies.


The whole world knows that Nicaragua and Iran are together
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Iran and Venezuela's ties

The Bush administration is watching Mr Ahmadinejad's tour closely, says BBC Latin America correspondent Duncan Kennedy.

As well as meeting Mr Chavez and Mr Ortega, Mr Ahmadinejad is also due to attend the inauguration of Ecuador's leftist new President Rafael Correa.

It is also expected that the Iranian president will meet Evo Morales of Bolivia.

Poverty

Mr Ortega took his visitor on a tour of shantytowns in the Nicaraguan capital, Managua.

Sandinista supporters wave flags and photos in the Cuba Libre neighbourhood of Managua
The Nicaraguans organised a warm welcome for their Iranian visitor

Hundreds of people turned out, waving flags of Mr Ortega's Sandinista party and holding photographs of the Iranian president.

"The imperialists don't like us to help you progress and develop. They don't like us to get rid of poverty and unite people," said Mr Ahmadinejad.

"But the whole world knows that Nicaragua and Iran are together."

Mr Ortega said he would sign accords with Mr Ahmadinejad to help reduce poverty in Nicaragua, one of the poorest countries in Latin America.

The two countries announced that they were restoring full diplomatic relations and re-opening embassies in their capitals.

History does not support you. While Saddam never said, "You wanna look? Go ahead. See whatever you want at any time without giving prior notice or escorts. Go crazy", he was headed that way in early 2003. What stopped it from happening? George W. Bush.

When did the Gulf War end? In between then and 2003, he was headed that way too. Only problem was he was doing a step forward and a step backward back and forth and back and forth. I didn't know which time you were referring to. You see, he has had back and fourths so many times, the answer to your question would be Saddam Hussein till the last time G.W. Bush. You need to rephrase your question to read "Who stopped it from happening AGAIN THE LAST TIME?" then your answer would be correct.

And while we are on that subject, shouldn't he have complied around the end of the Gulf War back in the early 90s and not drag it out that long? Hussien has been doing the back and forth thing for so long it is almost a joke. If he had complied when he should have, would it have even dragged out to 2003? Why did the UN have resolution after resolution after resolution? Do you know how many resolutions they have had on that SAME subject?

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Sure Saddam went back and forth. He wasn't going to give up anymore than he absolutely had to. His problem was that the pressure was getting ratcheted up. He'd go two steps in the right direction and then one step back. As time went on he was forced to be more cooperative. We should have allowed that process to continue. If we had, everyone would have seen that the Emperor had no clothes and that Saddam had more bark than bite.Absolutely.Who cares? Which is a greater hardship - endless resolutions or what we have on our hands now? W should have insisted that the UN make the inspections more and more invasive. If either the UN or Saddam didn't play ball, then we should have used military force. W was a fool to not allow that process to play out before invading.

How is an Iranian nuke different than a Pakistani nuke?

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From what I gather Iran is a diplomatic toughy,the younger generation is not happy with the current situation and the gov is applying more pressure to keep them in line. Hopefully time is on our side on this one a let the Iranian people take care of it..........with a little help from Uncle Sam.

How is a bird in the hand worth two in the bush?

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More like one step in the right direction and two backwards. You see, for every step backwards he takes, he gets to play the shell game. That means that he gets to move it around more. Look at some of his fighters. He even sent them to Iran for safekeeping so they don't get blown up. So, fro each step back he takes, he gets to move the stuff somewhere. To the point that we might not know where it has gone to finally. So, is that two steps forward and one back or one forward and two back?

So then it is really his fault that things got as far as they did. You can claim that Bush did this, that or the other but plain fact is that if Hussein didn't give Bush any excuse and complied, would Bush have any way of justifying going there even if he wanted to do it Just Coz?

Typical lawmaker mentality then? If it doesn't stop something, make another law. Never mind about enforcing the first one. Just keep making them up. Same with UN resolutions. Can't get him to follow the first one, make another and another till we kill him with paperwork and he complies? Why make the inspections more invasive when the current ones aren't even able to be done? What is the UN going to do about it? The UN is practically worthless for anything. Unless the 5 permanent members agree, what is the point? Russia will never agree since Hussein owes them big money. France and Germany? They have huge contracts with Hussein and if he goes, so do the contracts. Besides, if we had gone in at the first infraction, we might have found something. At this time, we will never know. The only thing we know is that if matter is neither created nor destroyed, then where is the stuff?

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Who cares?I don't see anything typical about it. Saddam was pretty close to unique, AFAIK.What good would that do?That's what more invasive means. When he refused to follow the rules for allowing inspections, we should have forced our way in.Exactly what they were (finally) attempting to do when W invaded - inspect.My point exactly. When he stymied the inspectors, we should have used force then and there.Good question.