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Old 01-20-2007, 06:42 PM
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Hey Brian, try running just one anti virus program and just one anti-spyware program. When you have more than one they tend to conflict and cause problems. If you are using a program like Norton Internet Security or McAffee they are known to slow down a computer.

When you start up your computer do you have a ton of programs that pop up on the tray at the bottom right?

I hate to say it but every 2 or 3 years is a good time to reinstall Windows.. it just tends to get slower over time.

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Old 01-20-2007, 06:54 PM
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Hey Brian, try running just one anti virus program and just one anti-spyware program. When you have more than one they tend to conflict and cause problems. If you are using a program like Norton Internet Security or McAffee they are known to slow down a computer.

When you start up your computer do you have a ton of programs that pop up on the tray at the bottom right?

I hate to say it but every 2 or 3 years is a good time to reinstall Windows.. it just tends to get slower over time.
I run Trend Micro anti-virus and spyware all the time.

The tray has five items in it. Everything else is not running on startup.

Believe me, the machine is running as well as it possibly can and it's still 60% slower than when new.
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:58 PM
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There's more to computing than user-level applications. "Compatibility" here means that you can accomplish the same tasks using different software written to attain the same ends. Since there are many users, it's profitable to port the software to multiple platforms.

When a programmer talks about compatibility, he means the operating system API. It's nontrivial to port software that uses the Windows API to anything else. This goes for pretty much any other OS architecture; porting OpenVMS software to Windows is also fraught with peril. If you have custom software, the cost to port to a new platform is enormous. Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single server application. Millions, in many cases.
I'm talking about user level be cause I don't give a $hit otherwise; the only thing I care about is turning my computer on; have a couple sips of coffee while it boots (not a cup) and it to play nice with printers on other networks that I may use. Developers need to realize that actual need of the end user and build around that. We do use custom software so I have to be winders mode for that but other wise I am almost always in OS X.

Our newer apps are Java based so they play nice with both, I am looking forward to that day.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:36 PM
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Brian,

Anything of suspicion listed in the Task Manager?
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:48 PM
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Anything of suspicion listed in the Task Manager?
Nope, nothing of consequence. Firefox, and the Trend Micro Spam and anti-virus suites are the big consumers. Everything else is negligible.

The machine is clean.

I could shutdown the Anti-virus and Anti-spam just to see if the speed returned to the as delivered condition, but, I'd sincerely doubt that it would.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:59 PM
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Well, I did an experiment and shutdown both the Trend Micro suite and Outlook.

The speed of the machine returned to the level that I recall when it was originally delivered.

Word and Acrobat both load in about two seconds after the first attempt. Interesting that the first load was considerably slower.

So, clearly, the Trend Micro suite has the greatest influence on the speed.

Rather interesting because the machine has more than sufficient RAM at 1GB and it's still severely affected.

Oh well........
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:16 PM
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Well, I did an experiment and shutdown both the Trend Micro suite and Outlook.

The speed of the machine returned to the level that I recall when it was originally delivered.

Word and Acrobat both load in about two seconds after the first attempt. Interesting that the first load was considerably slower.

So, clearly, the Trend Micro suite has the greatest influence on the speed.

Rather interesting because the machine has more than sufficient RAM at 1GB and it's still severely affected.

Oh well........

A lot of antivirus and anti-spam/firewall software programs eat up considerable CPU resources, which in turn slows everything else down. So while the extra RAM helps, when the CPU is handling multiple requests it can slow things to a crawl. My PC is pretty high end, but when I open Thunderbird to check e-mail, I may as well forget doing anything else significant as it consumes a good portion of the CPU's resources.

P.S. Outlook? Have you tried Mozilla Thunderbird?

Norton is one of the worst. It seems each successive release is more pervasive and resource-hogging than the last. What kills me is that the corporate edition of Norton AV is fantastic. It hums along, barely taxing anything. Then you have the home edition....Grrr.
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:20 PM
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If you're running Mcafee or Norton for your virus scan, that will slow you computer down considerably. Try switching to AVG Free for virus and spyware apps. I'm running Vista and have been for a couple of months as well as Office 2007. It's ok, but nothing earth shattering.
I mentioned this earlier. Uninstall the virus/spyware you currently have and install the AVG versions. They are free and work well. Just google "AVG free"
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:29 PM
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Get a Mac Hatters, you'll never need Windows again.

I'd been a lifelong Windows person until a little less than a year ago when I was offered a Mac at a new job (still work there). I'm never switching back.

If you really need to do Windows stuff from time-to-time you can do the Virtual Machine thing with Parallels or VMWare which is already out in Beta for the Mac. If you really need a full-on Windows you can use Apple's BootCamp (free) to create a dual-boot machine.
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P.S. Outlook? Have you tried Mozilla Thunderbird?

Norton is one of the worst. It seems each successive release is more pervasive and resource-hogging than the last. What kills me is that the corporate edition of Norton AV is fantastic. It hums along, barely taxing anything. Then you have the home edition....Grrr.
I've been wedded to Outlook for so many years that I probably can't switch now......

Thankfully, I don't run Norton anymore.

The machine is certainly tolerable with the Trend-Micro suite and the 1GB RAM. I'm glad I've got a final explanation of the speed decrease.

Thanks to all of you who have critiqued it for me.
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:42 AM
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Get a Mac Hatters, you'll never need Windows again.

I'd been a lifelong Windows person until a little less than a year ago when I was offered a Mac at a new job (still work there). I'm never switching back.

If you really need to do Windows stuff from time-to-time you can do the Virtual Machine thing with Parallels or VMWare which is already out in Beta for the Mac. If you really need a full-on Windows you can use Apple's BootCamp (free) to create a dual-boot machine.
The dual boot works but I think there is some problem with MS recognizing the bluetooth keyboard. With regular wired keyboards everythings fine. This is on a Mac Mini.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:21 AM
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Two more comments. I had forgotten about Trend Micro. That program caused slow down and other issues for me at a client about 5 years ago.
Now maybe it better now, but perhaps a different anti-virus is in order.

Also, in Outlook you have a choice of e-mail editor. If you choose Word, then it's runs in the background whenever Outlook is running. Outlook is a known resource hog, but with a gig of RAM you should have no problem.

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Old 01-21-2007, 09:30 AM
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Two more comments. I had forgotten about Trend Micro. That program caused slow down and other issues for me at a client about 5 years ago.
Now maybe it better now, but perhaps a different anti-virus is in order.

Also, in Outlook you have a choice of e-mail editor. If you choose Word, then it's runs in the background whenever Outlook is running. Outlook is a known resource hog, but with a gig of RAM you should have no problem.

Steve
Thanks.

It definitely affects the speed. No doubt about it. But, with 1GB, it's not intolerable. I rather like the Trend-Micro suite..........and I've now purchased it for two years..........so I'll probably live with it.

Outlook doesn't use Word as the e-mail editor. Word is another hog. I don't open it unless I'm using it.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:48 AM
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Unfortunately, not everyone has that choice. I require MS Windows for my work, and the OS that I use must be supported. Therefore we can't run NT4.0 for new installations, for example. At some point, Windows Server 2003 will also be EOL'd and I'll use something else. But moving to Apple is not an option.
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:34 AM
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Outlook doesn't use Word as the e-mail editor.

Don't know what version you have, but in Outlook 2003 you have that option.
Tools | Options | Mail Format.

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