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Old 04-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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If its pretty cloudy and cold where you are its going to take a little while for you to see any death in progress. When the sun breaks out, the weather warms up and the weeds try to grow...boom it kicks in.

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Old 04-13-2007, 12:50 PM
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I will get the name, I know its common because I had a Horsetail weed issue and two landscapers mentioned the same stuff. I had to remove the dirt 6 feet deep and replace it to get the problem under control until I learned that my pond algacide whoops its ass after an accidental spill.
Sounds like some good stuff. No doubt it would be restricted from most states in New England. Soil residuals are a big concern with the anti-pesticide groups and the politicians they control around here.
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:08 PM
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A lot will depend on how fast the weed is actively growing, here in southern New England (still in the 40's, cold rain) plants aren't doing much of anything right now. The glyphosate is carried through the plant's leaves to the roots so if there isn't much translocation going in, it'll take a long time for the chemical to get there.

Roundup (glyphosate) will take about 5-7 days to show visible signs even though it starts working within a day or so. Roundup Plus or Roundup Pro (glyphosate + diquat) will show "death" within 2-3 days even though the total kill will take the same amound of time as straight glyphosate. All of that assumes ideal growing conditions.

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Old 04-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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so how quickly does it work. i sprayed it last weekend and the weeds are still there and still green.
Jen, Roundup is a systemic herbicide. It goes into the roots and kills the weeds (and everything else you get it on) from the roots up. I spray everything in the back of my property with it every spring. There is a lot of poison ivey back there and it is gradually disappearing. I've been spraying for about five years. Roundup is the best herbicide I've ever used, but it does take a little time to work.
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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"Round Up" is a brand. Under that brand they make a few different products. One of the products, the one they got famous for, will kill any live plant it touches. But they do make other products designed for weeds intermingled with grass. You can get this stuff on the grass and it wont harm it. Read the label. It will tell you which one you have. You might have the one that doesn't kill grass, which unfortunately is not as effective on other types of weeds.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:20 PM
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The description on the container is a little confusing.

Is Roundup supposed to kill the weeds but not the grass? or is it supposed to kill both?
You should probably hold off handling Roundup for at least one more trimester. It's not exactly Snapple.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:23 PM
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You should probably hold off handling Roundup for at least one more trimester. It's not exactly Snapple.
Concur.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:42 AM
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*** Roundup -vs- Crossbow ***

I've used Roundup Concentrate (for the woody plants) and have experienced excellent results with it.

It works best when daytime temps stay above 60° and the plants are "active" in their growing cycle.

Yellowing/death is usually 1-3 days, total die-off is within the 10-day period after the initial spraying.

Last year, I decided to try Crossbow at my northern transmitter site...it took a longer time for it to even show yellowing, let alone death. I started seeing some re-growth of thistles and prairie grass about 4 weeks later...I sprayed again and then it seemed to stick. I'm still out on the final decision about the Crossbow stuff.

But, so far, I'm stocking up on the Roundup for this year. If the Crossbow takes as much time to kick in like last year, then I've got the backup ready.

Ya' got to go with what works!

BTW, what are you paying per quart? I'm getting it for about $25.50, at the local Wal*Farts.

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You should probably hold off handling Roundup for at least one more trimester. It's not exactly Snapple.
Hadn't thought about that. I wouldn't want to be messing with it while pregnant.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:44 AM
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BTW, what are you paying per quart? I'm getting it for about $25.50, at the local Wal*Fart.

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I use it for agricultural weed control and buy in slightly larger quantities from the co-op or ag supply. Last year, glyphosate in the form of RoundUp or Honcho Plus was running from $48-52 for a 2.5 gallon jug. The tab is usually a bit higher because we add surfactant and marking dye to the mix.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:26 PM
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Post *** Roundup's Makeup and Application Data... ***

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I use it for agricultural weed control and buy in slightly larger quantities from the co-op or ag supply. Last year, glyphosate in the form of RoundUp or Honcho Plus was running from $48-52 for a 2.5 gallon jug. The tab is usually a bit higher because we add surfactant and marking dye to the mix.
I just brought the stuff in. Here's the chemical breakdown as it's written on the bottle:

Roundup Concentrate
Poison Ivy & Tough Brush Killer Plus

Glyphosate, isopropylamine salt.....18.0%
Triclopry, triethylamine salt........... 2.0%
Other ingredients........................80.0%

The price was $25.63/quart. Last year I was finding it for around $18.00-$19.50 per quart.

If your stuff is the same makeup, what's the correct name and approx. price you're paying for what quanity?

The Crossbow stuff I used, last year, didn't react as soon and as completely as the Roundup did. I don't want to go that route, again, if I can help it.

Thanks again.

BTW, on the directions, it just says that pets and people may re-enter the sprayed areas AFTER the spray has dried.

Also, do not use Roundup on/near edible plants and feedstuffs for livestock.

Pretty much common sense stuff. This must mean some idiot sprayed his apples before he picked them for his roadside stand, somewhere in Numbnuts, Outer Swobodia.

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Old 04-15-2007, 12:24 AM
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If your stuff is the same makeup, what's the correct name and approx. price you're paying for what quanity?
See post #26

AFIK Roundup = Honcho
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Roundup, from those wonderful people who bring us genetic modifications.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:19 AM
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Ever use the concentrate Remedy (mixed with diesel fuel) ?
It’s the only thing we’ve found that will kill a Mesquite tree around here.
It’s sprayed about a foot above ground level, all the way around the trunk.
No ground contact, or water run-off issues.

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