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t walgamuth · #31 04-22-2007, 08:11 PM

there is no Architect's guild.

you don't hold a professional license, do you?

tom w

Botnst · #32 04-22-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

there is no Architect's guild.

you don't hold a professional license, do you?

tom w

What is the difference between a guild and the AIA, AMA, Bar, PE, etc?

There is no biologist's guild, thank goodness. Anybody can call himself one. All you have to do to get recognition is publish your research. It's easy as pie.

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Botnst · #33 04-22-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Oh well. If a guild can build a good reputation backed by reality, they will command an audience, a clientele.

The guild doesn't build a reputation, it is a sphincter. It controls what passes into the environment.

I completely agree with the rest of your statement.

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Brian Carlton · #34 04-23-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Track record is more important than a certificate.

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I suppose that you expect the average person to properly evaluate the capabilites of a medical professional based upon a "track record"?

No need for the person to hold a medical license or have further credentials from the licensing board?

Do you have any concept of what "board certified" means in the medical profession?

These individuals are highly qualified to perform the tasks for which you pay them. Believing that you can obtain the same level of performance from a person without a license is about the most naive thing you can possibly suggest.

There is a very good reason for professional people to have a license. Don't like it? Get one of your own and compete with them.

Honus · #35 04-25-2007, 11:47 PM

Further evidence that the Bush administration is populated by a bunch of low lifes: http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2007/04/25/news/042607dcagmeet.txt

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Pryor's Opinion Unchanged After Gonzales Meeting
This article was published on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:19 PM CDT in News
By Aaron Sadler
The Morning News
Email this story Print this story Comment on this story WASHINGTON -- Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark., on Wednesday renewed his call for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to step down, unmoved by a personal meeting in which Gonzales sought to explain his handling of a U.S. attorney appointment in the state.

"I told him point blank that I think it's in the best interest of the (Justice) Department and the administration that he resign," Pryor said after their 40-minute meeting in the senator's Capitol Hill office.

Arkansas' junior senator in a Senate speech last month demanded the attorney general resign and accused him of lying in a Dec. 15 telephone conversation.

Pryor said an e-mail written by the attorney general's former chief of staff Dec. 19 showed the Justice Department intended to bypass Senate confirmation for interim federal prosecutor Tim Griffin.

On Wednesday, Gonzales denied lying and was unrepentant, Pryor said.

"He didn't really offer an apology and nothing he said today really changed my mind on anything," he said.

The two met as Gonzales tried to rebuild credibility damaged in the administration's botched firings of eight U.S. attorneys, including the ouster of H.E. "Bud" Cummins III in Little Rock.

"I told him there are a lot of senators who think he should step down, Democrat and Republican," Pryor said. "He said his intention was not to step down. The president had confidence in him, and he plans to stay and work on mending some fences."

Gonzales initiated the closed-door meeting at the request of Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who said Pryor's anger over the issue was "out of character."

Pryor claims the attorney general assured him on Dec. 15 that Griffin would be sent through the normal Senate confirmation process and that he and Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., should give Griffin a chance to succeed in his new job.

The Dec. 19 e-mail by then-chief of staff Kyle Sampson laid out a plan to keep Griffin on as U.S. attorney indefinitely, stating "I think we should gum this to death: ask the Senators to give Tim a chance."

Pryor said the e-mail reads like a "playbook" that Gonzales used in the earlier telephone conversation.

The attorney general had a "hazy memory" of phone conversations with Pryor on Dec. 13 and Dec. 15, the senator said.

Gonzales has said he rejected the plan to circumvent Senate confirmation with his interim appointment power.

"It appears he was on board with the plan until somebody shined the light of day on it, then he rejected it," Pryor said.

Gonzales took no questions Wednesday as he and his security detail scurried into Pryor's office past a cordoned-off area of about 30 reporters and photographers.

The Justice Department did not comment on the meeting.

Pryor and Gonzales met without anyone else in the room and went over specifics of the Dec. 19 e-mail, first released publicly by the Justice Department last month.

Gonzales may not have been as forthcoming as possible because of ongoing investigations into the firings, Pryor said.

"He has to be careful what he says, even with someone in private, about how much he talks about this," Pryor added. "My impression is he felt a little inhibited by the ongoing investigation."

What a clown.

Matt SD300 · #36 04-26-2007, 08:47 AM

"I don't recall"

t walgamuth · #37 04-26-2007, 08:50 AM

it worked for reagan.

but then it may have been the altzheimer's in early stages.

tom w

Botnst · #38 04-26-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I suppose that you expect the average person to properly evaluate the capabilites of a medical professional based upon a "track record"?

No need for the person to hold a medical license or have further credentials from the licensing board?

Do you have any concept of what "board certified" means in the medical profession?

These individuals are highly qualified to perform the tasks for which you pay them. Believing that you can obtain the same level of performance from a person without a license is about the most naive thing you can possibly suggest.

There is a very good reason for professional people to have a license. Don't like it? Get one of your own and compete with them.

I believe I understand what the term, "Board Certified" means, yes. Do you have any idea what the term, "freedom means"? I don't intend to insult you, simply point-out that your question implies a degree of ignorance that you have no right to assume.

I expect that everybody should look out for his own self-interest, not have a guild system determine where his self-interest lies.

For example, in my state there is a state certification test for florists. Why shouldn't florists have a certification sphincter, too?

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