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LaRondo 05-09-2007 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by guage (Post 1502286)
Iraq, Afghanistan an shortly we'll be in Kosovo.
Signed up already with Montenegro.

LaRondo 05-09-2007 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes (Post 1502227)
I'm gwine to assume you are referencing Barracks Osama?????
Har Har.

LaRondo 05-09-2007 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel (Post 1502038)
Iraq disrupts tornado recovery effort

Reuters


Overland Park, Kansas: A shortage of trucks, helicopters and other equipment - all sent to the war in Iraq - has hampered recovery in a US town obliterated by a tornado, Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius said on Monday.

"There is no doubt at all that this will slow down and hamper the recovery," Sebelius, a Democrat, told Reuters in Kansas, where officials said the statewide death toll had risen to 12 on Monday.

Huge handicap

"Not having this equipment in place all over the state is a huge handicap," Sebelius said.

The tornado that devastated Greensburg, 175 km west of Wichita, started a weekend of violent weather in Kansas, a state in the heart of the United States also known as "Tornado Alley."

"We're getting pounded in Kansas. We have the need for National Guard in two different parts of our state now. This is really going to be a problem."

Sebelius and other Democratic governors earlier this year assailed the Bush administration for the strains they said the war had placed on their states' National Guardsmen, frequently mobilised for state emergencies.

Adverse impact

On Monday, anti-war groups, including the National Security Network and Americans Against Escalation in Iraq cited the shortage of equipment to deal with the Kansas disaster as the latest example of what they see as the war's detrimental impact on domestic security.
Very soon it'll look like former "East-Block" countries ... or for better understanding former, communist countries ...

gatorblue92 05-09-2007 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskeydan (Post 1502079)
thats about what i would expect from the liberal scum in SF... if you hate the country so much then leave... and i don't for 1 second believe that a US solider wrote this

Matt L 05-09-2007 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 1502296)
Oh, we already HAVE one, all right. (All those people like Mr MikeMover running around with their guns.)

Only thing is, it's not WELL ORGANIZED as the 2nd amendment mentioned.
You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. After that, find out what "regulated" meant a few hundred years ago.

GottaDiesel 05-09-2007 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by guage (Post 1502312)
That's my take on it also, we've been fighting for 4 & 6 years if they're in the service now they are lifers or signed on knowing we are at war!!! I wish I could thank them all personally.

Ok... so do it. Thank them. Right here, right now. I'm *very* curious as to what exactly you're thanking them for. Perhaps that will explain to people exactly what they are doing.

You have the floor.

GottaDiesel 05-09-2007 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by guage (Post 1502342)
For serving their country in a time of WAR, it's an all volunteer force ya know,
not all people in this country are weak kneed and spineless.

Even if Ussama predicted that we would be after a couple of years.
Ok, so you're going to thank the people that joined AFTER the war started. What about the rest of the brave men and women? The ones that signed up BEFORE this all started? What do you say to them?

Txjake 05-09-2007 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel (Post 1502364)
Ok, so you're going to thank the people that joined AFTER the war started. What about the rest of the brave men and women? The ones that signed up BEFORE this all started? What do you say to them?
what is your point? I hope that you don't think that anyone who joins the military does not think that he may be called upon to serve wherever the country sends him. It has nothing to do with liking the war or not. A soldier's duty is to serve.

GottaDiesel 05-09-2007 06:22 PM
It certainly is to serve. Agreed.

But ask yourself, do you think people are more or less likely to join if there is a chance they will be killed?

aklim 05-09-2007 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel (Post 1502389)
But ask yourself, do you think people are more or less likely to join if there is a chance they will be killed?
If they are joining to ride the gravy train and now that the going gets tough they don't want to join then I say good. We DON'T need those kinds of soldiers. You sign up and you have to expect to get shipped out tomorrow. Anything else is your good fortune. If you are going to sign up in the hopes that you ride the gravy train and get off before the going is tough then maybe, this situation will be the best for the freeloaders.

So, once again, if these scumbags are not wanting to sign up because there is a chance they will get killed (military fights. In fights, some die) then we don't need them at all. If these conflicts are going to weed out those clowns, I would consider it a good side effect.

Kuan 05-10-2007 12:26 AM
***** even Bonnie Prince William is going to Iraq. :)

Edit: I mean Harry. Inbreds, can't tell one from another. :D

Matt L 05-10-2007 01:15 AM
Last I read, there was a question of whether that was really going to happen, due to his value to the insurgents. Has there been a reconsideration?

mgburg 05-10-2007 07:27 PM
*** Will someone PLEASE kill the messenger... ***
 
"Boo Hoo! I'm the Governor of a Big State and I can't wipe my own ass. Where's the FEDERAL Government? Why don't they take over? I can't even find my ass..."

"Geez, where's the TV camera? Is it on? Can I say something and make it all better?"

"NO?"

"THEN IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT THAT I DON'T HAVE "ASTRO-DIAPERS" AND MY STATE IS A BIG PILE OF 5HIT!"


"OK! Are the cameras off? Good. Call "W" and let's give him a tour and show him how bad things are."

"Better yet, let's have someone from my office stay connected to the media and issue "updates" on what's not transpired and we'll embarass everyone up to the President."

I'm sorry to see a town wiped off the map. Just keep the cameras away from the politicos that want "face-time" for THEIR OWN GOOD - NOT THE COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T!

:dizzy2:

Botnst 05-10-2007 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel (Post 1502389)
It certainly is to serve. Agreed.

But ask yourself, do you think people are more or less likely to join if there is a chance they will be killed?
That's a reasonable question. I have no idea about the stats involved, but the military is trying to expand it's active duty, reserves, and national guard forces, simultaneously while at war. In order to meet the new goals it has relaxed it's peacetime standards that were set very high because they didn't need lots of manpower. Now they do. So now they take recruits who have a minor criminal past and have not completed high school. In that expanded cohort there will be some people who get through taht will make poor soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen. Probably significant more than before the expansion and before the war. Thus, there will be a greater number who get in trouble and who get booted out.

Despite all of that, the retention (re-enlistment rate) among e-5 and above is still very high. What does that mean? It means that men & women who know the score, who have already served at least 3-4 years, are staying in the military. Also, the military academies have not dropped standards and junior officer retention is high.

What do these facts tell us?

B

Emmerich 05-10-2007 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken300D (Post 1502205)
There are newer schools in Baghdad than there are in Washington DC.

That's too much of a sacrifice to make for people who hate us and have no intention of changing their hate regardless of the circumstances.
Safer ones too......


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