..watch this:
Citation Crash and Recovery

This supports my theory that you're only stuck if you need to go get help.

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You and me both. That's nutty!

Here's the report:

NYC05LA085

On May 15, 2005, at 1548 eastern daylight time, a Danish-registered (OY-JET), Cessna Citation 525A, was substantially damaged during a runway overrun at Atlantic City Municipal Airport/Bader Field (AIY), Atlantic City, New Jersey. The certificated private pilot received minor injuries, and three passengers received no injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and an instrument flight rules (IFR) flight plan was filed for the flight which originated at the Burlington International Airport (BTV), Burlington, Vermont. The business flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

The pilot reported to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector, that he performed "one circle" around the airport, observed the windsock, and then performed a landing on runway 11. During the landing roll, approximately 2/3 down the runway, the pilot "lost the brakes," and was unable to stop on the remaining runway. The airplane then continued off the departure end of the runway and impacted the water.

A review of recorded radar data and air traffic control (ATC) communications revealed the pilot contacted Atlantic City (ACY) Approach Control at 1538, and stated he was inbound to "alpha charlie yankee." The pilot was instructed to descend to an altitude of 2,000 feet, and fly heading 220 degrees.

At 1540, ATC instructed the pilot to "proceed direct Bader, descend and maintain 1,500 feet. Expect visual approach." The pilot read back the instructions, stating, "thank you, direct Bader, descend to 1,500."

At 1544, ATC informed the pilot that "the airport is 12 o'clock and 4 miles." The pilot responded that he had the airport in sight, and the controller then cleared the pilot for a "visual approach at Bader airport."

Radar data indicated that the airplane was at an altitude of 800 feet, at 1545, continuing on a heading of 220 degrees. About 1 minute later, the airplane made a 360-degree right turn, and rolled out on it's previous heading of 220-degrees. At 1547:10, the airplane crossed abeam the departure end of runway 11, at AIY, at an altitude of 100 feet. The airplane then continued on a westerly (downwind) heading and climbed to an altitude of 300 feet.

The airplane then initiated a right turn back toward runway 11, at an altitude of approximately 200 feet. During the turn, the airplane's groundspeed was approximately 180 knots.

At 1548:42, the airplane was at an altitude of 200 feet, 1.24 nautical miles from the approach end of runway 11, with a groundspeed of 155 knots. Over the next 10 seconds, the airplane's altitude decreased to 0 feet, and the airspeed decreased to 140 knots. The last radar return was recorded approximately 1,000 feet beyond the approach end of runway 11, at an airspeed of 128 knots.

A witness, who was an employee at AIY, was inside a trailer, located about 400 feet to the right of the midfield point of runway 11, at the time of the accident. The witness was in communication with a Cessna 182, on a downwind leg of the traffic pattern for runway 29, when he looked out the window and observed the accident airplane make a "low pass on runway 29 with a climbing right turn out." The witness went outside the trailer and observed the accident airplane touchdown "about halfway down" runway 11. The airplane appeared to slow as it approached the end of the runway; however, it did not stop, and subsequently impacted the water. The witness further reported that the pilot of the accident airplane did not communicate any intentions on the UNICOM frequency.

Several other witnesses reported that as the airplane touched down, they thought braking was occurring, since smoke was coming from the airplane's tires.

Examination of a video recording, which was taken by a witness at the airport, revealed the airplane touched down about 800-1,000 feet beyond the approach end of runway 11. The video also displayed the windsock at the airport, and according to the witness, it indicated a tailwind at 10-15 knots.

The airplane was examined by an FAA inspector after the accident. According to the inspector, the brake system and emergency brake system were functionally checked, and no abnormalities were noted. The anti-skid system could not be tested, due to salt water damage. Examination of the emergency brake system revealed it had not been used, and the nitrogen bottle gauge indicated 1,800 psi. The flap selector was in the "ground" position, but the indicator was in the 15 degree position. The left throttle lever was observed in idle cut off, and the right throttle lever was bent to the right at the idle stop.

Examination of the runway revealed tread marks beginning approximately two-thirds down the runway, and continuing off the departure end into the grass and dirt.

The winds reported at Atlantic City International Airport (ACY), 9 miles to the northwest, at 1554, were from 280 degrees at 9 knots.

A review of the FAA Airport/Facility Directory for the Northeast U.S., revealed the following notation listed in the Airport Remarks section of the Atlantic City/Bader Field Airport entry, "Arpt CLOSED to jet traffic." Additionally, runway 11 was a 2,948 foot-long, 100 foot-wide, asphalt runway.

Additionally, the airport diagram for Bader Field, was observed attached to the pilot's control column after the accident. A notation, which read, "airport closed to jet aircraft" was observed on the diagram.

According to the Cessna 525A Landing Distance Chart, an airplane with a landing weight of 11,400 pounds required 3,000 feet of landing distance, in a no wind situation. With a 10 knot tailwind, the airplane required 3,570 feet of landing distance.

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1992 300D 2.5T
1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEA0QUmTcKs

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1967 280SE
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1971 280 SE
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1974 280 S
1975 450 SEL
1976 220 D
1979 300SD
1983 300 SD
1985 230 TE euro
1986 280SL
1986 500 SEL euro
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1998 C43 AMG Sold to DON
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current:
R320 CDI
Ram 2500 Cummins

Where did that plane eventually go to?

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09 Jetta TDI
1985 300D

The scrap yard, I hope.

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Ah! Aquaplaning!

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For a few moments I thought the pilot decided to see if he could get it out of the water, and back on ground. (maybe a boat ramp, or a beach of sorts)

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09 Jetta TDI
1985 300D

Yea, Maybe he was thinking no one noticed. Get back up on the runway, act normal.

I've subsequently read that the replacement aircraft's registration is OY-WET instead of OY-JET

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or perhaps hydroplaning?

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OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

and this weeks flying lesson will include touch and go's.....

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2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

Is there a "water feature" at your airport, Mistress?

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" We have nothing to fear but the main stream media itself . . . ."- Adapted from Franklin D Roosevelt for the 21st century

OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

A new form of watersport

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It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. Robert A. Heinlein


09 Jetta TDI
1985 300D