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Old 07-17-2007, 07:21 PM
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It brings to mind the Boston Tea party, in fact.....
Check the bond rating for the Commonwealth vs. that of California's credit rating and get back to us on that.....

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Old 07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
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Virginia still sucks
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:19 PM
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I have heard of other countries where you are not allowed to drive a car older than "x" years old.

So to me, what Albo the Lawyer did in the name of self-interest is equivalent to what "Legislator John Doe" the car salesman might hypothetically do to outlaw any car more than 10 years old.

My research shows that Albo just got elected the last time by a hair. And I think all Virginia legislators are up for re-election this November.

Already one incumbent has lost their party's primary in Hampton Roads. The challenger indicated she would introduce legislation to repeal HB 3202.

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/va3202/petition.html

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I am number 41,306 to sign this petition. Yesterday I heard the number exceeded 80,000. The people of VA will kill this.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:20 PM
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I wonder how much of this has to do with Virginia being a red state, i.e., thick headed and self-righteous.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:26 PM
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too bad

Too bad the 80,000 petitioners didn't care enough *before* they were fleeced by the VA General ASSembly. Too late now.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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I guess I won't speed through Virginia any more.
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I think VA still has an annual property tax assessment on cars. The newer the car, the more you pay every year. It seems that would discourage ownership of new cars.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:00 PM
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I guess I won't speed through Virginia any more.
The extreme revenue generator only applies to state residents.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:11 PM
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Out-of-state resident drivers, and illegal alien drivers, are exempt from the Virginia Civil Remedial fees. This includes much of the military based in Virginia, and many of the students attending Virginia schools - they are exempt from these fees.

Also, in refering to the hypothetical legislator "John Doe", I meant to make no correlation with board members, living or dead.

Such things as failure to "properly" signal a lane change, improper (worn out) tires, and so on, bring a $300 or so fee that is paid for three years (i.e. $900)

I always thought NY or NJ was the "Kalifornia of the East" but am re-thinking that.



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Old 07-17-2007, 10:14 PM
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So we have a business oppurtunity.

I will rent my address to VA residents to get an Il drivers License !!!

Oh, but speaking of dumb Polititians and their laws.

Here in Chicago, they are trying to set it up so that if you are caught driving w/o a license they will impound your car.
(Suspended, revoked, none ...)

Ok, that ain't a bad idea, but the impound lots have stated they will not be able to handle the 25k / year cars !!!

AND (this I find really funny)

They currently can impound your car for playing your stereo too loud !!!!
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:53 PM
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Such things as failure to "properly" signal a lane change, improper (worn out) tires, and so on, bring a $300 or so fee that is paid for three years (i.e. $900)
The amount of drivers that do not signal really tick me off.. as well as those tards that do not put their headlights on in a mid afternoon Florida monsoon.

not signaling when changing lanes is annoying but when you are in front of me and you slow down and turn left without a signal prompts me to lay on it and give you the salute.... I need bigger horns... or a really big SUV with a steel bumper... how I hate the idiots
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:51 AM
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Remind me to stay away from Virginia.

Even Ohio is getting fairly reasonalbe. My #1 lovely daughter lives there and driving on the interstsate I can run about seven over with impunity, now.

cmac.... I wouldn't be surprised if this type of thing makes it become a blue state....that is if the blue pols have enough sense to act wisely.....

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If you look at the voting on HB 3202, which is available on-line at several sites, you can see that this form of fee collection greed passes across all party lines. To me, the message that should be sent is not "I'll vote for party 'x'" but instead, "I'll vote against the incumbent". That's because I'm not sure you can blame one party or the other for what happened.

Virginia already has "aggressive driving" laws that deal with sudden lane changes that force other drivers to adjust. But now, simply gliding over from one lane to another on the open interstate is subject to more than a $1000 overall ticket.

More and more low income people end up driving on suspended licenses because they don't have the money to pay ticket and court costs. I think this new law will increase that situation, and may result in more violent traffic stops and car chases - due to the stakes being much higher for the driver.

I used to live near Williamsburg and drove a highway often called the "Colonial Parkway". It's a nice scenic park drive between Jamestown, Williamsburg and Yorktown. Park police patrolled and enforced traffic laws. They had a policy - your first traffic stop ALWAYS resulted in a warning. I drove the road just about every day for five years, and I only needed that one warning (to slow down).



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Old 07-18-2007, 09:29 AM
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If the $3550 fine were for poking along in the left lane, I'd be all for it. Too bad the simple "left lane is for passing" theory gets so little attention/enforcement. Sigh...
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Virginia still sucks
And you still work at Publicks.

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