Wow: No Homos in Iran!
 

Ahmadinejad says they don’t have Homosexuals in Iran
Posted Sep 24, 2007, 4:40 PM ET

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that the country does not need a nuclear bomb, Holocaust is myth, and that there are no homosexuals left in Iran.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said during a speech at Columbia University that his country is not pursuing nuclear weapons and that he is open to diplomatic discussions with the United States.

“We do not believe in nuclear weapons. Period,” Ahmadinejad said through a translator in his address at the Columbia University World Leaders Forum.

The Iranian president was challenged by Lee C. Bollinger, the president of the university, to address his previous statements about the reality of the Holocaust, Iran’s dedication to the destruction of Israel, its development of nuclear weapons and its alleged support for terrorist organizations.

Ahamdinejad did, however, address many of Bollinger’s questions, though not always to the satisfaction of the packed auditorium, which booed him occasionally and applauded his comments at other times.

On the destruction of Israel, Ahmadinejad said the thought is contrary to the foundation of Iran. His country, he said, “loves all nations.”

"If the Holocaust is a reality of our time, a history that occurred, why is there not sufficient research that can approach the topic from different perspectives?" he asked.

The Iranian leader has made statements in the past suggesting that Israel be politically "wiped off the map," though he insists that can be accomplished without violence.

Asked about widely documented government abuse of women and homosexuals in his country, Ahmadinejad said, "We don't have homosexuals" in Iran. "I don't know who told you we had it," he said.

Apparently, no women either.

Double wowee!

No wonder they're kinda grumpy . . . :D

No drinkers either

Their potential for being a Spring Break destination is going to be a very hard sell.

No homo's but they still like *******s since he got 80% of the vote.

Oh no, not at all. The women there are all supremely happy and free, according to Ahmadenijad:


Ahmadinejad gets rough welcome
NAHAL TOOSI

Associated Press

September 24, 2007 at 5:29 PM EDT

New York — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took the stage at Columbia University to a blistering welcome from the president of the school, who said the hard-line leader behaved like “a petty and cruel dictator.”

Mr. Ahmadinejad smiled as Columbia President Lee Bollinger took him to task over Iran's human-rights record and foreign policy, and Mr. Ahmadinejad's statements denying the Holocaust and calling for the disappearance of Israel.

“Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator,” Mr. Bollinger said, to loud applause.

He said Mr. Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust might fool the illiterate and ignorant.

“When you come to a place like this it makes you simply ridiculous,” Mr. Bollinger said. “The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history.”

Mr. Ahmadinejad rose, also to applause, and after a religious invocation, said Mr. Bollinger's opening was “an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here.”

“There were insults and claims that were incorrect, regretfully,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said, accusing Mr. Bollinger of offering “unfriendly treatment” under the influence of the U.S. press and politicians.

The Iranian president is in New York to attend the UN General Assembly. Protesters gathered outside the United Nations and Columbia University to protest his appearance.

Earlier Monday, Mr. Ahmadinejad defended the policies of his government before a National Press Club audience.

“People in Iran are very joyous, happy people,” he said when questioned about the arrests of students, journalists and women. “They're very free in expressing what they think.”

He said women in Iran were “the freest women in the world ... They're active in every level of society.”

Human rights activists inside and outside Iran have decried a recent wave of arrests of people calling for political and legal reforms of the Iranian theocratic system. Mr. Ahmadinejad said those complaints were baseless, and denied knowing about any detention or harsh punishments of reformists.

“The people who give this information should see what is the truth and disseminate what is correct,” he said. “I invite everyone in this session to come and visit Iran for themselves.”

Tensions are high between Washington and Tehran over U.S. accusations that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons, as well as helping Shiite militias in Iraq that target U.S. troops — claims Iran denies.

Thousands of people jammed two blocks across from the United Nations to protest Mr. Ahmadinejad's visit to New York. Organizers claimed a turnout of tens of thousands. Police did not immediately have a crowd estimate.

The speakers, most of them politicians and officials from Jewish organizations, proclaimed their support for Israel and criticized the Iranian leader for his remarks questioning the Holocaust.

“We're here today to send a message that there is never a reason to give a hatemonger an open stage,” New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn said.

The Iranian leader has previously called the Holocaust “a myth” and called for Israel to be “wiped off the map.”

Mr. Ahmadinejad told the National Press Club that his questioning of the Holocaust was based on his concern that it was used to justify Israeli oppression of the Palestinians.

“Granted that the Holocaust is a reality ... Why is it that the Palestinian people should be displaced?” he said. “Why are they paying the damage by giving up their land?”

Before leaving Iran, Mr. Ahmadinejad said the American people have been denied “correct information,” and his visit would give them a chance to hear a different voice, the official IRNA news agency reported.

Mr. Ahmadinejad has appealed to the American people before, distinguishing between the population and their government. Recently, he told a television show that Iran wants peace and friendship with America. Since coming to power in 2005, Mr. Ahmadinejad also has sent letters to the American people criticizing President George W. Bush's Mideast policies.

I had the displeasure of listening to Hannity on the way home from work and heard him blasting Columbia for allowing him to speak. They roasted him, I think it was beneficial for the students and facility to show him a little bit of free speech.

Devil with a Blue Dress On
With apologies to
Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels

Year: 1966


Fee, fee, fi, fi, fo-fo, fum
Look at Molly now, here she comes
Wearin her wig hat and shades to match
Shes got high-heel shoes and an alligator hat
Wearin her pearls and her diamond rings
Shes got bracelets on her fingers, now, and everything
Shes the devil with the blue burkha, blue burkha, blue burkha,
Devil with the blue burkha on
Devil with the blue burkha, blue burkha, blue burkha,
Devil with the blue burkha on
Wearin her perfume, Chanel No. 5
Got to be the finest girl alive

She walks real cool, catches everybodys eye
Shes got such good lovin that they cant say goodbye
Not too skinny, shes not too fat
Can't really tell and I like it like that
Shes the devil with the blue burkha on, blue burkha on, blue burkha on,
Devil with the blue burkha on
Devil with the blue burkha, blue burkha, blue burkha,
Devil with the blue burkha on

Good golly, Miss Molly
You sure like to ball
Good golly, Miss Molly
You sure like to ball
While youre rockin and rollin
Cant you hear your mama call
From the early, early mornin til the early, early night
See Miss Molly rockin at the House of Blue Lights
Good golly, Miss Molly
You sure like to ball
While youre rockin and rollin
Cant you hear your mama call
(medley)

wearing a pearl and diamond ring

devil with a blue burkha, blue burkha...........

He is a latent.

Is he going after Young Republican support?

Right, I must have misunderstood . . . in fact, I think I heard somewhere that the Iranians allow women to get stoned . . . in public no less . . . must be some fine weed in those water pipes . . .

Tap, tap, tap.

With women like this why would there be homosexuals?
http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jun2001/MissIran.jpg
http://www.ridingsun.com/files/ridingsun-iranRugby.jpg

Stock up boys.
http://www.shaveblog.com/wilkinson-razor.jpg
http://www.c-wilkie.pwp.blueyonder.c...ges/beaver.jpg

Squeak, squeak, squeak

This is actually an interesting discussion. Does a well respected institution like Columbia provide a stage for a person of this ilk? And if they do so, is the institution harmed by the practice?

Many of us questioned the reasoning behind providing a pulpit for this individual.

Clearly, the University had carefully laid plans for this dictator and the pulpit was designed to call him out.

Crafty indeed.

Ummm actually...
 

I know some Persian women (Don't call them Iranian by the way) and they are really hot. I dated one for about a year and there was nothing wrong with her or her sister.
Ladan (ex-gf) was a medical student back in '79 and she told me that although they marched to protest SAVAK (the Shah's secret police) they NEVER expected him to flee the country and especially never expected Khomeini to become dictator. She and others feel that it was the Shah's cancer that made him too weak and he gave up the fight for his throne.

The women in Iran are usually not in Chadors (Burkas) but wear a head scarf. I have written before of Ladan's job interview in Oman where she scandalized the hospital she was interviewing at by wearing a mini skirt and sleeveless top. In Iran you can get away with that indoors even in an office as long as you dress conservatively outside.

I am not apologizing for the govt of Iran or the religious nuts in power over there, but you have to remember that Persia has had a culture that goes back 5000 years and the people are very cosmopolitan. If they could ever get rid of the Mullahs you would see a totally different country emerge. Did you know that the biggest US Embassy and consular staff in the world was in Tehran? Something to think about. The average Persian wants to be on good terms with us and to be real players on the regional and world scene instead of pariahs like N Korea. What their government is doing is scaring them as well as us as I hear from Ladan, who still has lots of family over there.

Oh and the 80% of the vote for this nut in the last election? Remember that Saddam got 99.5% of the vote in HIS last election. Election results mean nothing in a dictatorship.

Does anybody actually believe anything that Mahmoud Ahminajihad had to say?
And even if what he says is what he truly believes, does it make any difference since it is the Ayatollas that have control?
And, didn't anybody teach them not to trust people in power, because ultimately it goes to their head, and they end up pursuing their own personal agenda?

The best way to control people, is to keep them ignorant - that is why the Catholic church was against Gutenbergs printing press invention (until they realized that they could print their own propaganda and distribute if effectively), and that is why those in power in the middle east, keep people from thinking for themselves - because once they start thinking for themselves, they'll inevitably start to question why things are the way they are, and who died and made you king?

Keep Ahminajihad here....indroctrinate him...brainwash him if you have to....send him back to Iran, and have him start a revolution (within Iran). Support him with educational propaganda - make the people question authority!

I don't think it was crafty I think it was good educating I did not get too far into the pre-speech debate because once I heard Columbia's prez say his words about Hitler speaking it put it into context. He said that if Hitler wished to speak and face the questions of students and faculty bring that he would encourage him or anyone else to do so....I agree thats some good edgamakatin IMO. Ahmadinejad does not need any help looking like an ass he did a fine job on his own, hopefully some of students will open their eyes to what the clown really thinks.

I would NEVER have expected old CU to do this! I mean I figured that they would do the usual "Poor Palestinian" thing and show solidarity for the president of the one country that would use the A-bomb for Palestine.

What they did however, was to show the world in a free forum exactly what a nut this guy Ahmadinejad really is.

I think the important part is people heard what he had to say first hand not what CNN or Fox News reported.

Part II of my post...
 

Of course the other shoe just dropped, or not...

September 24, 2007, 5:56 pm Columbia Is Divided by Bollinger Remarks

By Leora Falk

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...linger.190.jpgLee C. Bollinger, Columbia University’s president, speaking before Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took the lectern at Columbia on Monday. (Photo: Ozier Muhammad/The New York Times)
How did Lee C. Bollinger do?
Following the speech this afternoon by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, Columbia’s campus was abuzz today with discussion about the strident criticism that Mr. Bollinger, the university’s president, leveled at Mr. Ahmadinejad, who was sitting just a few feet away.
(We blogged Mr. Bollinger’s remarks, and Mr. Ahmadinejad’s response, earlier today.)
Already, some are saying that Mr. Bollinger’s criticism was an unorthodox — or even ungracious — way of treating an invited guest. Others applauded the university president’s remarks as a brave act of principle.

As Mr. Bollinger walked across the campus around 4 p.m. today, several students at Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs — including a student who said she was insulted by the harsh language but declined to give her name because she lives and works in Iran — accosted Mr. Bollinger.
“This is a debate,” he replied. “These are very important things that have to be said.” He then rushed off, saying he needed to prepare to class.
Matteen Mokalla, a 26-year-old Iranian American student at SIPA, who is from Napa, Calif., said of Mr. Bollinger’s remarks: “A lot of us who were sitting there watching him thought, ‘Wow. That’s really strong language for a member of the academy.’ … I wasn’t insulted, I just felt that the president of Columbia University should not use the language of the Bush administration.”
Mr. Mokalla said he believed that Mr. Bollinger invited Mr. Ahmadinejad and then “just insulted him.”
He added, “Regardless of how he feels about the president of Iran, I didn’t think it was appropriate.”
Gazelle Javantash, 27, a graduate student at SIPA who was born in Iran, but grew up in California, said she believed that Mr. Ahmadinejad “felt attacked.” She said, “He talked about feeling disrespected. Respect is a huge thing in Persian culture. They could have gotten more out of him if they showed more respect in the beginning.”
“It was completely shocking,” Ms. Javantash added. “I never expected the president of a university to speak to the head of a country like that.”
David Trilling, 29, a SIPA student, read a statement on behalf of Iranian students at the school who, he said, could not speak publicly because they feared reprisals against their families in Iran. The statement asked Bush to “tone down” his militant rhetoric and said, “The main issue is that the world must not be tricked into believing that war and sanctions are the solution. The more antagonistic the stance of the U.S., the more the current regime is strengthened.” The statement added: “Please do not try and democratize Iran. Let us democratize ourselves.”
Fatimah Farsh, 21, an Iranian graduate film student at Columbia, agreed. “Any change in Iran should come from within,” she said, as she carried an Iranian flag on a pole. Asked about Mr. Ahmadinejad’s speech, she called it “typical.” She added, “It is hard to speak clearly when you hold such extreme views.”
Jackie Carpenter, 33, a SIPA student studying Russian affairs, offered a similar assessment. “Bollinger took a big political risk, and it’s obvious that’s the reason why he felt he had to excoriate Ahmadinejad before he even had the chance to speak,” she said. “There’s an irony here to me on the fact that he’s talking about freedom of speech and yet he doesn’t allow Ahmadinejad the room to speak before he was attacked.”
Others applauded Mr. Bollinger. “I think Bollinger’s opening words were bold, and I fully support them,” said Sam Jonas, a 23-year-old graduate student from Baltimore, who thought Mr. Ahmadinejad’s speech was “off point, kind of rambling, and nonsensical.”
Jacob Kriegel, a senior at Columbia, who is from Sharon, Mass., applauded Mr. Bollinger for taking on Mr. Ahmadinejad. “I was skeptical of how much he was actually going to challenge him but he was ferocious in his attack,” Mr. Kriegel said.
Betsy Jaeger, who was born in Prague to survivors of the Holocaust and graduated from Columbia in 1972, said she concluded from the event that Mr. Ahmadinejad was “a conniver and a liar.” She said, “He has an answer for everything and says nothing. He made a laughing stock of the university.” Still, she added, “Bollinger did well.”
Students offered a mix of views on whether the event itself was worthwhile.
Sara Aries, 21, a senior from Spain, 21, said of the speech, “It was utterly disgraceful and it was an utter waste of time. The man did not answer any of the questions that were posed to him. He was was evasive is all of his answers. He kept going on about the promotion of science in Iran and yet, any scientist who goes there is immediately imprisoned or put on the death sentence. Frankly, this man is just a hypocrite.” She said she found particularly laughable Mr. Ahmadinejad’s observation that homosexuals do not exist in Iran.
Several thousand students watched and listened to a live telecast of the speech on the southeast lawn of Columbia’s Morningside Heights campus, in front of the Butler Library. Many said they found the event worthwhile.
“It would be going against a lost of ethics that we stand for not to invite someone just because we don’t agree with what he says,” said Alex Paige, a 19-year-old sophomore from Washington, D.C., during the speech. He assessed the talk this way: “I think it’s been a little bit off-topic.” Mr. Paige said Mr. Ahmadinejad waited too long to get to the substance of his remarks, about Iran’s role in the world. “If he’s short on time, he should have started with that instead of giving a lesson on the Koran.”
Red Samaniego, a 19-year-old freshman from San Diego, who attends Barnard College, said the talk highlighted the importance of free speech. “Because he’s invited here doesn’t necessarily mean that his actions are condoned, but shows a quest for understanding,” she said.
Amital Isaac, 18, a Jewish student who wore an anti-Ahmadinejad black T-shirt said she was glad to hear from Iran’s president and said she thought the speech brought up interesting questions. “Should I be against him coming to Columbia — or against him?” she said.
“He began the speech with religion and everyone on the lawn was rolling their eyes,” she said. “They knew it was propaganda.” But it got people talking, she said, “and that doesn’t happen everyday.” She added: “Le Monde said Columbia now has a political conscience. I was rather proud. I consider this the beginning of my political student career.”
Some Columbia students tried, as college students often do, to bring some fun and irreverence to the occasion. Sheena Shirakhon, 20, an Iranian-American Jew who grew up in San Fransisco, took off the blouse and red skirt she had worn after speaking at a lectern on the steps of Low Library and posed in a silver bikini top that said “NO WAR” on it, with shorts that continued “IN IRAN” painted across the back. Moments before the speech began, protesters unfurled a banner telling Ahmadinejad to “GET OUT OF MY CAMPUS.”
The steps of Low Memorial Library, Columbia’s administrative center, were the forum for a wide variety of groups and individuals. Aaron Krieger, an organizer of the forum, said the speeches were supposed to focus on the question of whether or not Mr. Ahmadinejad should have been invited. But the talks often veered off topic. One student, for example, used her allotted time (about 10 minutes) to recite the names of juveniles on death row in Iran.
Makini Boothe, a Barnard College senior who spoke on behalf of Baha’i students, said her faith believes that “from the clash of opinions comes the spark of truth,” and so she supported Mr. Ahmadinejad’s right to speak — even though Baha’i students are often repressed in I ran.
Cassie Spodak, a junior anthropology major at Barnard and member of the College Democrats, said at the lectern, “Despite claims that Columbia is rolling out the red carpet for the Iranian President, nothing could be further from the truth. By agreeing to appear at Columbia, President Ahmadinejad has accepted the university’s insistence that half of the event time devoted to a question and answer session in which students and faculty will have the opportunity to take Ahmadinejad’s policies to task and force him to rationalize his unsubstantiated claims and ruthless policies.” She added, “Let us embrace the opportunity for the future leaders of this country to put this man to the test.”
Josh Lipsky, a 21-year-old senior at Columbia, and the president of the College Democrats there, agreed, saying, “While it may be politically expedient for some to criticize Columbia’s attempt to reinvigorate diplomatic discourse, there truly is no danger in talking.”
to be continued...

Part III
 

Several students said they had strong personal feelings on the issue of U.S.-Iranian relations.
Ms. Shirakhon, the student who sported an antiwar message on her bikini and shorts, said she feared the prospect of an American armed confrontation with Iran. “What I am really afraid of is that it seems ignorance and fear and anger are here again,” she said. “And no–President Ahmadinejad is not a symbol of our freedom. But — and trust me on this — his power in Iran grows a little bit more every time we put that military option on the table.” American threats against Iran represent for Mr. Ahmadinejad, she said, “a big gift-wrapped package of fear that he can use to defend anything.” Eitan Bendavid, who graduated from Columbia College in the spring and teaches once a week at the campus Hillel, said, “You may be right, President Bollinger, that Ahmadinejad has the right to speak his min, but why help his cuase and grant him even the smallest trace of legitimacy by opening our university doors to him?” Mr. Bendavid asked, “Are there any red lines?” when it comes to who can speak on campus.
Before the talk, Mr. Bendavid predicted, to cheers, “This talk will probably be just as dishonest as a discussion with Hitler would have been, and equally as dangerous.”
Annie Correal contributed reporting.

It seems that at least some of the students of CU are finally waking up to reality.

Maybe we should get Bin Laden to speak, think thats a good idea too?

Why not? We can always whack him at the exit, if we are going to be the champions of freedom we have to be consistent.

Yeah right and
1. breast-fed babies don't phart
2. The Kennedy's are not gun shy.
3. Communism works- on paper.

Universities are designed to bring challenging ideas to people who have open minds. It is a danger, but the greatest rewards usually come from the greatest risks. I have a feeling that even the kids at Columbia maybe smart enough to realize that Ahmanutjob is untrustworthy.

It do enjoy the incongruity of Columbia inviting that clown to speak but shouted-down the American citizens who wish to enforce border security and that Columbia wont allow military recruiters on campus. But that's a discussion for another time.

B

I'm not so sure it was craftily planned at all. I thought it was a good idea though, if the debate were honest and not sycophantic.

Now Columbia has to figure out what to do with folks like the Minutemen and the Indoctrinate U fellow who was asking uncomfortable questions vis a vis the above sycophants. I'm sure that Ahmadinajad, or "Pork Chop" as I call him, didn't have to pay the $1500 fee and have a paid handler to come aboard.

What's with Duncan Hunter and Peter King wanting to punish Columbia for hosting Ahmadinejad? First they freak out over moveon.org, now this. If they want to go after sombody, how about the National Press Club? Ahmadinejad used them during his video news conference. Gave evasive answers and non-answers and there weren't any follow ups. They should have cut it short and told him thanks but no thanks.

What do you think of Ahmablowjob?

They have no homosexuals....they are all Bi.

Tom W

Why? He's a politician, just like Bush or any other ...
Exactly!

Just like anywhere else on the globe, including the US ....

If this statement is indeed authentic, it clearly indicates the hidden agenda.

Factual.

Anybody surprised?
And why not so?

Did he do anything to you personally? Why all this hatred?

Where did you get he hate from? Nice troll but as usual all of your comments went off like a blank.

As well as the most blown out of proportion and fact twisted event in history.

You realise this homo thing means war.

No, it's the WMD's Iran is making with it's nuclear program.

Anti-homo-Islamabomb.

The West thinks they're the only ones allowed to have homos.

OK, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

I agree with both your points.

I have met many Persoans and they are very Western in their mindset. At least the educated are. Lebanon, and the Lebanese people were the same, before the crazy-assh*l*s took over.

The uneducated masses are a different story, however. And yes, Persian women can be quite beautiful.

I also agree with you point about elections in countries like Iran. In Cuba, Castro routinely gets 110% of the vote! :D

Indeed. :bowrofl:

Is that Farsi or Erdu you are speaking, sir?

I can't understand what OUR problem with him is, if he is THAT popular in Cuba.

BTW, Castro also insists that there are no homosexuals in Cuba. If a person is caught "behaving" gay, he is sent to a re-education camp to do hard labor and to be re-educated (think Clocwork Orange).

If you wish to see how homosexuals are treated in "free and democratic: Cuba take a look at the movie Before Night Falls.

They get their pee pees whacked!

I know, imagine that. And he is even a beisbol fan...

Oh well! :D