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Old 10-05-2007, 07:01 PM
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Have you read what I posted or do you think magnitude tells the story? If the former, than you would know the latter is inaccurate. If the latter, you might try the former.
Artful dodging there bucko-meister.

Point is, Limbaugh was designated an honorary member of Congress by the '94 crowd, I believe it was, who rightly accorded him a lion's share of the credit for getting them elected.

His audience is some 30 million, he NEVER subjects himself to fair debate from any detractors -- he controls the floor at all times.

Oh yeah, free speech and all, just like Goebbels and his boys had free speech. Shouting fire in a crowded theater is not generally approved of and Limbaugh's continual placing of blame on the crowd that his sponsors wish to marginalize is not scientific, scholarly, you name it.

He declares that he is never wrong and the large segment of the American public who are congenitally unable to consider that their country could ever be foolish, in error, in a mass sort of way drink it up like mother's milk.

Thus we proceed to mediocrity.

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Old 10-05-2007, 07:06 PM
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I thought you were leaving the argument to lay?

betray,

deliver to an enemy by treachery; "Judas sold Jesus"; "The spy betrayed his country"

Treachery, a synonym for treason. I didn't pick the word. MoveOn.org did.
Yes and you also state that Hillary Clinton "called DP a liar."

Incorrect, not accurate, faulty, prevaricate (noun; the end result of prevarication).
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:08 PM
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Sounds like ol' Rushbo is doing just fine.
Amazing when you consider the demonic extortion of govt. funds by NPR, enabling them to compete savagely with him.

Damn the restraint of private business!!
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:26 PM
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Yes and you also state that Hillary Clinton "called DP a liar."

Incorrect, not accurate, faulty, prevaricate (noun; the end result of prevarication).
Who is DP?

You seem to be heading out to left field...
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Amazing when you consider the demonic extortion of govt. funds by NPR, enabling them to compete savagely with him.

Damn the restraint of private business!!
You are very far out in left field now, please come back, the game is over!
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:31 PM
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Who is DP?

You seem to be heading out to left field...
That would be David Petraeus. Try to keep up.

How about Gen.DP in future?

You do recall stating that HC called someone a liar? Think pergo-pergs, think.
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You are very far out in left field now, please come back, the game is over!
Jeez, I hate to see a grown man flail about. So undignified.
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That would be David Petraeus. Try to keep up.

How about Gen.DP in future?

You do recall stating that HC called someone a liar? Think pergo-pergs, think.
Oh, that. Is this the quote you're looking for:

"The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief,"

Do you think that the reports in question would contain truth if one suspended disbelief?

Calling someone a liar nicely is still calling someone a liar.
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What I object to is MoveOn's reckless, unconscionable assault on the man's honor through the use of the phrase, "Betray Us". By choosing that path, they do their own argument a disservice and for precisely the point you bring-up and nobody cares to comment on: The meat of MoveOn's complaint. See, by choosing ad hominem argument MoveOn shifted the focus from their complaint to Gen Petraeus' honor.
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And Limbaugh implied that soldiers who oppose the war are liars and phony, propped up by liberal anti-war activists.
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See, by choosing ad hominem argument MoveOn shifted the focus from their complaint to Gen Petraeus' honor.
MoveOn did that? 'Cause it seems to me, conservatives did by getting all hot and bothered about two words.
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Jeez, I hate to see a grown man flail about. So undignified.
So do a pal a favor and help me stop flailing. Say something that makes sense.

Please... I need the dignity...
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And Limbaugh implied that soldiers who oppose the war are liars and phony, propped up by liberal anti-war activists.
Just 'cause you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
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Just 'cause you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
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RUSH: What's more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working, and all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and your colleagues over there is a great threat to them. It's frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much.

Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes.
It is what it is.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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It is what it is.
Yep, it sure is.

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Ok, here we go. With a little help from Wikipedia, Google and others I found these folks:

Jesse Macbeth
Paul Lemman
Walter Carlson
Wes Cooley
Terry Powell
Micah Wright
Al Hubbard

and evidently

Sen. Harkin
Sen. Kerry

All of whom misrepresented what they actually did while in the service or did not serve at all but said they did.
at least half of those are fake and the rest lied about their service. ABC news and Limbaugh reported on some of them evidently within a day of each other.
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Oh, that. Is this the quote you're looking for:

"The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief,"

Do you think that the reports in question would contain truth if one suspended disbelief?

Calling someone a liar nicely is still calling someone a liar.
Botnst, Are you going to jump in here with your definition of "lie"? For consistency's sake, I think you should.

Taken alone, Hillary's statement seems to imply dishonesty on GP's part, but it is ambiguous enough to make the context of her statement worth reading, assuming, of course, that that particular dead horse needs to be beaten some more.
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Just 'cause you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
And just because you keep denying it doesn't mean it is untrue.

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