Like I said in another thread, I queston certain groups loyalty...

[kknudson]

I too believe it is illegal.

Although I agree, they probably didn't know better.

So a solution might have been to explain it to them, giving them the opurtunity to correct it.

If they decline, GO FOR IT.

Although throwing the Mexican flag on the ground was not exactly proper either.

Personally I also feel anyone who is a Mexican-American, Italian-American, German-American .... Should also be told to be correct, or leave.
IF YOU ARE HERE YOU ARE AN AMERICAN FIRST !!!
So if you choose to be an American of Mexican Descent ... I'm on your side !!!!!

[MTI]

Originally Posted by kknudson

I too believe it is illegal.

Belief isn't going to make it so. Criminal property damage is illegal. I belive there's a student in New Mexico currently facing charges for grabbing a Mexican flag during a parade and ripping it, because there wasn't an American flag with it.

[Honus]

Originally Posted by kknudson

I too believe it is illegal.

Well, it always pays to read the statutes.

The federal statute posted by others clearly does not prohibit the conduct of the flag owner in that video, so that only leaves Nevada law (Somebody said that this was in Nevada. Is that correct?) Here's the Nevada statute, it's a doozy:

NRS 201.290 Penalty; exception.
1. Any person who, in any manner, for exhibition or display, puts or causes to be placed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, character, marks or notice, or sets or places any goods, wares and merchandise whatever upon any flag or ensign of the United States, or state flag of this State, or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags or ensign, or who in any manner appends, annexes, or affixes to any such flag or ensign any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who displays or exhibits or causes to be displayed or exhibited any flag or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags, upon which shall in any manner be put, attached, annexed or affixed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who publicly or willfully mutilates, tramples upon, or who tears down or willfully and maliciously removes while owned by others, or defames, slanders, or speaks evilly or in a contemptuous manner of or otherwise defaces or defiles any of the flags, or ensign, which are public or private property, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. This section shall not apply to flags or ensigns the property of or used in the service of the United States or of this State, upon which inscriptions, names of actions, words, marks or symbols are placed pursuant to law or authorized regulations.
[1911 C&P § 338; A 1919, 438; 1919 RL § 6603; NCL § 10286]

The closest that statute comes to prohibiting that flag owner's conduct is where is makes it a misdemeanor when someone "defaces or defiles" the flag. I don't see how those words could reasonably be stretched to cover what was shown in that video.

So my vote is that the flag owner broke no laws. I would welcome anyone who can show me otherwise.

...Although throwing the Mexican flag on the ground was not exactly proper either...

No matter what the laws permits or prohibits, his contempt for the Mexican flag was inexcusable, IMHO.

...Personally I also feel anyone who is a Mexican-American, Italian-American, German-American .... Should also be told to be correct, or leave.
IF YOU ARE HERE YOU ARE AN AMERICAN FIRST !!!...

Be careful saying that too loudly at a Saint Patricks Day parade.

[MTI]

There are no federal/state laws or code that trumps the consistent rulings of the Supreme Court of the United States in this matter. Flying the Mexican flag above the US flag violated no law punishable by any court in this country.

As Americans, we have the right to fly any flag, be it the Mexican, Iranian, North Korean, Confederate or, dare I say it, Canadian maple leaf on our property. We can burn it, use it as a bandana, baby diaper or handkerchief. President Bush, during a trip to Europe, exercised his right by autographing the flag for foreign dignitaries.

Americans would be better served by knowing their own laws and becoming more familar with their own civil rights.

[Hatterasguy]

Originally Posted by MTI

There are no federal/state laws or code that trumps the consistent rulings of the Supreme Court of the United States in this matter. Flying the Mexican flag above the US flag violated no law punishable by any court in this country.

As Americans, we have the right to fly any flag, be it the Mexican, Iranian, North Korean, Confederate or, dare I say it, Canadian maple leaf on our property. We can burn it, use it as a bandana, baby diaper or handkerchief. President Bush, during a trip to Europe, exercised his right by autographing the flag for foreign dignitaries.

Americans would be better served by knowing their own laws and becoming more familar with their own civil rights.

And we also have the right to cut it down as that Vet showed oh so clearly.

Freedom of speach and expression are two way streets, you can do whatever you want, express until your hearts content...you just better be able to deal with the backlash.

Is a protesting idiot perfectly within his rights to burn an American flag in front of me? certainly...But the way I express my freedom is to shove my boot so far up his butt that he spits out my shoe laces. We are both expressing ourselves...his backlash is a boot, mine is court.

[MTI]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

And we also have the right to cut it down as that Vet showed oh so clearly.

That "right" as you call it, is a property crime, so please don't confuse the two.

Using your philosophy, we all have the right to break criminal laws because our sense of right, patriotism or personal point of view is offended. Whether those feelings are held by a great many people is of no significance, as it still violates the law.

Was the country that the vet fought for one that was reflects tolerance and justice, or something else?

[Honus]

Originally Posted by MTI

That "right" as you call it, is a property crime, so please don't confuse the two.

Using your philosophy, we all have the right to break criminal laws because our sense of right, patriotism or personal point of view is offended. Whether those feelings are held by a great many people is of no significance, as it still violates the law.

Was the country that the vet fought for one that was reflects tolerance and justice, or something else?

Exactly right.

I am unclear about the basis for concluding that Vet acted in a moral fashion. Unless others here know more about the background and context of the events shown in the video, all we know is that an angry Vet took action to prevent a violation of our customs concerning respect for the flag. We don't know why the flag owner did what he did or whether he was given an opportunity to atone. So, all we have is that the Vet stood up for the stars and stripes. Is that enough to give him the moral high ground, without knowing anything else about what happened?

[BENZ-LGB]

Originally Posted by dculkin

Exactly right.

I am unclear about the basis for concluding that Vet acted in a moral fashion. Unless others here know more about the background and context of the events shown in the video, all we know is that an angry Vet took action to prevent a violation of our customs concerning respect for the flag. We don't know why the flag owner did what he did or whether he was given an opportunity to atone. So, all we have is that the Vet stood up for the stars and stripes. Is that enough to give him the moral high ground, without knowing anything else about what happened?

Typical liberal, empty-headed, pretentious arguments.

The bar owner knew full well what he was doing when he placed the Mexican flag over OUR flag. If you think otherwise, I've got some garbage dump in Tijuana I would be happy to sell to you.

It is one thing to have to put up with criminals in other countries stomping on our flag, burning it, spitting it on it. Hell if we are going to put up with it here.

Whether the action of the bar owner were legal or not is not the point. Flying the flag of HIS country over the flag of OUR country is big "f**k you gringos!"

If you want to bend over and let barbarians get over the gate, fine. You do it.

I think that there are enough people who, thank God, won't let it happen.