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Old 11-07-2007, 11:08 AM
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I do think that he can back up the Carbon Fibre claim as the largest single person purchaser in the world.
That's not what he said.

In the above google search result on speed, you should amend to include the tri-hull......

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That's not what he said.

In the above google search result on speed, you should amend to include the tri-hull......

Club Med is a tri hull?

edit: gotcha what is the fastest Tri Hull?
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:19 AM
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Thats what I was thinking. But they used the term "ship" which has not set diffinition.

I'd call the Volvo Ocean 70's, semi displacment. or 420's on crack.
A 'ship' carries boats or, is square rigged on all masts.

...420s on crack. LOL!!

I used to own an International 505. It positively had to be the most fun you could have on the water while wearing clothes. 505s are reportedly faster than a Flying Dutchman. Never could prove it but I do know that, on a windy day, it's definitely faster than most bass boats.

While planing it downwind on my 35th birthday, I stuffed the bow into the back of a growler which all but stopped her dead in the water. That in turn inverted the spreaders all while putting my crew around the forestay and we wound up breaking the mast in two. We patched it up by sawing off the foot of the mast to replace the crushed section and then fished it with an insert made from part of a Capri 18 mast, rosette welded the thing in and filed it all smooth. We were back out flogging ourselves in a couple of weeks.

Believe me, this is a tightassed evolution in a 505:

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edit: gotcha what is the fastest Tri Hull?
I dunno, but I seem to recall when Finian Maynard broke the all-out speed record for sail (48.7 on a sailboard) in '05 there was a Swiss or Finn that claimed they had hit 50 in some sort of tri-hull. Will look later.
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I dunno, but I seem to recall when Finian Maynard broke the all-out speed record for sail (48.7 on a sailboard) in '05 there was a Swiss or Finn that claimed they had hit 50 in some sort of tri-hull. Will look later.
I remember a Whitbread Sir Peter surfing his boat round The Horn surfing @ 45 knots I don't think going down a 100 ft wave counts as a speed record but that ****** haulin ass.
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I remember a Whitbread Sir Peter surfing his boat round The Horn surfing @ 45 knots I don't think going down a 100 ft wave counts as a speed record but that ****** haulin ass.
But the pucker factor is right up their.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:03 PM
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what is the fastest Tri Hull?
That depends on the parameters. Fastest 24 hrs, fastest mile etc, etc?

Fastest 24hr crewed multihull:
2007 Groupama 3 103 ft Tri, Franck Cammas FRA, 794nm, 33.08 kts

Fastest 24hr crewed monohull:
2006 "ABN AMRO TWO" 70ft, Sebastien Josse, FRA, 562.96 nm, 23.45kts

Fastest 24hr solo multihull:
2006 "Brossard" 60 ft Tri, Yvan Bourgnon SUI, 610.45 nm. 25.76 kts

2006 "Mediatis-Region Aquitane" 60ft Cat, Yves Parlier FRA, 586.00 nm 24.41 kts

Fastest Nautical Mile (male):
April 2007 Alain Thebault FRA Hydroptère 41.69 kts Quiberon Bay, France
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Thebault was the one I was thinking of. Apparently he hit a few clicks higher several times but they weren't certifiable.
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I had a Hobie Holder back is the day, I think it was a 12' but I had the 14' rigging, sucker hauled balls and was fun as hell on a windy day but stopped like JD at an accident scene when the when stopped.
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Hydroptere a damned big piece of hardware to be moving at 47+mph.
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Hydroptere a damned big piece of hardware to be moving at 47+mph.
I saw that on that on Discovery............Awesome.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:24 PM
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:34 PM
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I had a Hobie Holder back is the day, I think it was a 12' but I had the 14' rigging, sucker hauled balls and was fun as hell on a windy day but stopped like JD at an accident scene when the when stopped.


Thats the best way I have heard a hobie described!
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One of his claims is that he was the largest single purchaser of carbon fiber in the US.
Didn't he say 'after defense industries,' or something like that? Oh, found it, he said, "except for the American air force, I've purchased the most carbon fiber of anybody ever." Each mast weighs 25 tons, three of them, 75 tons, that's a fair amount, assuming each mast might be 70 to 80% carbon fiber by weight.

The guy is a tad arrogant, no doubt about it. I've got mixed feelings about him.

My change of heart comes from the realization that the sort of crew needed for old time rigged ships is not likely to be reliably available and would be cost prohibitive at any rate. Maybe the sort of programmed masts and sails that he's experimenting with will save a lot of fuel one day.
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In her day, Barque Elissa (Aberdeen 1877, ~200'LOA, approx 12,000 sq/ft of sail) regularly sailed with just 11 seamen, 2 daymen and 3-4 officers.

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