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Perception of what is propaganda to you is different from others, what you deem as propaganda is another person's truth and what you think is right is another person's propaganda.
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Is this propaganda? http://emptyage.honan.net/mth/2007/11/jimmy-carter-he.html |
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I think the film has weaknesses insofar as it doesn't address the justice of the war, but it does a pretty thorough job of documenting incompetence through interviews with people who were involved in post-war rebuilding.
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Yes just like anything against the war is to you like this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0912593/ Point is the word propaganda can be liberally used to put down any opposing point of view, its a common practice which has been done throughout history. The term terrorist were coined against Indian freedom fighters by the ruling British and I am sure the Brits had choice word for the US freedom fighters as well. To any Brit, anything against their agenda was propaganda in every sense.
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Correct, and before declaring it as propaganda, least we get a chance to see another perspective to make our own decision.
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No I haven't, opinions change over time, nothing is absolute or final.
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So everything is perception, and not propaganda.
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Everything is propaganda, perception is a matter of interpretation based on personal parameters.
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I think it depends on the definition of is.
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I will see it, then let you all know for sure if it's propaganda or not.
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Unlike yourself, who deals in solid gold facts, unimpeachable, at all times.
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'propaganda' - according to Merriam-Webster: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
In effect, any non-neutral statement by anyone can be construed as propaganda.
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This was, bar none, the most informative and analytical documentary on the war in Iraq I've seen thus far. Missing is the leftist rhetoric and cleaver edits of Michael Moore (before I get tons of hate mail: I usually agree with everything he says, I just disagree with his method of presentation). In their place are the plain unadulterated cold hard facts (think Frontline), which are more than damning enough. Think of it as exhibit A in the trial of this administration in the court of world opinion. A must see for anyone who still feels that this country is worth living in (although you may find that conviction waning upon exiting the theater). I've read other similar reviews. Much of the post war rebuilding effort was incompentent beyond belief. Rajiv Chandrasekaran's book "Imperial Life in the Emerald City" lays out amazing tales of wide eyed Bush league repo delusion in that category.
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Neutrality is again a relative issue. What appears neutral to you may not appear neutral to others.
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