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Medmech 12-11-2007 12:40 PM

Do Atheists murder?
 
I can across this tidbit today and wanted to share, it appears that in the modern era the godless types are on a killing spree.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/21416.html?1149342861

Medmech 12-11-2007 12:41 PM

"One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

Joseph Stalin

LUVMBDiesels 12-11-2007 12:44 PM

If you have no morality you cannot commit murder. All you can do is kill somebody...

Murder implies guilt.

Medmech 12-11-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels (Post 1700608)
If you have no morality you cannot commit murder. All you can do is kill somebody...

Murder implies guilt.

So its "people removal", gotcha. No Religion, No Harm No Foul.

BAVBMW 12-11-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels (Post 1700608)
If you have no morality you cannot commit murder. All you can do is kill somebody...

Murder implies guilt.

So you're saying that if I don't feel guilt or remorse over it, it's not murder? 'Cause that would sure be handy...

"You see judge, I really felt he had it coming, and feel no remorse or regret what-so-ever, so let's just forget this whole murder thing, mmmnn-K? Thanks."

I thought that murder was what we called intentionally killing another, with certain variances for manslaughter factored in also?

MV

Medmech 12-11-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BAVBMW (Post 1700622)
So you're saying that if I don't feel guilt or remorse over it, it's not murder? 'Cause that would sure be handy...


MV

In a Atheist society you would not have laws like we do since they were written by Theist's.

Matt L 12-11-2007 01:09 PM

So other than religion, there is no compelling reason to agree to not murder each other?

Yes, people really believe this. No, it isn't so.

And mass-murder is another thing. It happens a lot in the quest for power, whether by atheists or in the name of the church.

POS 12-11-2007 01:17 PM

Murder isn't only a moral issue, it's an action. Of course they can murder people.

Dee8go 12-11-2007 01:17 PM

There are a lot of social mores that have their basis in religious doctrine, but they are no less valid for atheists than believers. Society needs rules in order to function satisfactorily. I don't believe your example that "murder" requires adherence to religious beliefs in order to have validity.

I'm sure our resident legal scholars can weigh in on this issue with some food for thought.

ForcedInduction 12-11-2007 02:00 PM

So that means that killing somebody in the name of "God" is not murder?

I have a big problem with that website. Atheism is NOT a religion or cult! Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.

HOWEVER, the 10 myths and 10 truths about atheism is a VERY good section and I strongly suggest that everyone read it.

MS Fowler 12-11-2007 02:19 PM

I think someone's predudice is showing.
There are a variety of definitions of what is "religion". Some say it is simply a set of beliefs. Under that definition. "atheism" is most certainly a religion. Atheism is a set of beliefs that actually guides or even controls the actions of its adherents.
Sounds like a religion to me.

Medmech 12-11-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 1700710)
I think someone's predudice is showing.
There are a variety of definitions of what is "religion". Some say it is simply a set of beliefs. Under that definition. "atheism" is most certainly a religion. Atheism is a set of beliefs that actually guides or even controls the actions of its adherents.
Sounds like a religion to me.


Exactly, from what I read on this forum I am less religious than the people that don't think they're religious.

ForcedInduction 12-11-2007 02:25 PM

You are incorrect, atheism is not a belief it is the lack of belief.

MTI 12-11-2007 02:26 PM

Common law definition of murder: The taking of a life, in being, with malice aforethought.

How does belief in a diety come into play?

John Doe 12-11-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1700715)
You are incorrect, atheism is not a belief it is the lack of belief.

But he damm sure made his point about how condescending atheists posting on this site have become as of late......


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