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Old 12-17-2007, 11:02 AM
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Surely you jest,,,

Maybe you all think the starting price on this is a good deal,,, I think not.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:21 AM
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Whatta load of *****...some garden variety pressed steel production car with a few factory mods.

You just wait...Barret-Jackson and those outfits may have been making a mint selling this crap to the ignorant masses with money to burn but mark my words,the whole shaky edifice'll come crashing down when we have a much-needed "market correction"to put it mildly.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:26 AM
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$2.7m today, $700k in five years. I watch the Barrett-Jackson thing on Speed every year and laugh my ass off at the morons who pay top dollar for cars like that. Barrett-Jackson is a total joke.
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:50 PM
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He is NOT jesting. French connection/Swedish connection to the car.

Yeah, this is the one that went for $2,000,000 a couple of years ago and made news in all the Muscle car magazines back then as it was the most expensive muscle car ever sold.

Pretty ambitious to try and flip it for a coold $700,000 profit. There might be someone in the last stages of tertiary brain syphilis and $$$$ out the kazoo who might pick it up.

I like the look and sound of some of those muscle cars, particulary the 66-67 SS396 Chevelle and Pontiac GOAT and the early Cougars too.

They were usable as everyday cars in their time, and in the early '70s they could be picked up in decent driver shape for $1500.

I don't know about this one, though, what I remember is that it is indeed rare, its build plate or something indicated it was an export model destined for Paris when new.

It went through many owners and there is no history, books or records.

They are fun to drive in a redneck way. I drove a '71 Roadrunner 383 manual for a couple of weeks, and it a lot, back in '72 I think, and had a blast with it.

The Hemi ones like this were among the best of them, for the sound and power. When one would pull up to the stoplight, next to you the rumble was so strong it would sometimes reverberate off your dash, next to them.

No mistaking what they were: intimidating.

When you floored them, you could actually HEAR the gas being sucked into the secondaries, and they sucked a LOT of it. But when gas cost 30 cents a gallon, who cared?


The color schemes Chrysler used in these days were pretty inspired, lke "Plum Crazy" and so on.

This one on this one was called "Curious Yellow" in tribute to the 2 Swedish films that year called "I am Curious - Yellow" and "I am Curious - Blue" put out by Swedish film makers.

Yellow and Blue are the colors in the Swedish flag.

The two referenced movies were porno movies trying to pose as "art" movies and ramrod their way into public acceptance. I never saw them.

That was in the days of Linda Lovelace and "Deep Throat", I took a pass on that movie too, all of them, in fact but they were supposedly pretty shocking supposedly and had all censors and bluenoses atwitter.

In the end, though I agree with Mr Hughes. It is little more than a rattletrap American car from the time, just a cheap Plymouth that makes a lot of sound and fury and goes fast but can't stop, handles like a brick rolling sideways, sucks up a lot of gas, and usually won't hold together for very much longer than it took to fill the payment book, and in 4 or 5 years was rust from the doorhandles down.

It fulfills the special needs of some people I guess.

For that kind of money you could get a REAL serious car, like a top drawer 1938 Mercedes Benz 500 K Spezial convetible, one of the most beautiful cars ever made, a work of art.

It'd buy a NICE stable of other cars, too, each of them better on every possible level than this one.
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:53 PM
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$2.7m today, $700k in five years. I watch the Barrett-Jackson thing on Speed every year and laugh my ass off at the morons who pay top dollar for cars like that. Barrett-Jackson is a total joke.
I agree with thoughts - BUT if you ever get the opportunity to attend a J B Auction it's a must do.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:03 PM
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The Barrett-Jackson auctions are terrific! Wish I could go someday.

Amazing how nostalgia can fetch such ridiculous figures!!! All for cars that during the fuel crisis of the 70's were getting dumped for a few grand!

Back in high school, most of my senior class drove in less-limited versions of the same cars!

I wonder when the baby-boomers finally die off, if any of these cars will still retain their astronomical values?!!!

After all, these cars were all crappy by today's build standards. Handling was god-awful, and the appointments were cheap and brittle. GMs formula was to stuff a giant motor in an anemic coupe, put some decals and distinctive trim and voila! A limited-edition muscle car!

Note the waste of fuel and horespower due to the lack of more precise technology. Today's fuel management and induction techniques could extract twice the rated horsepower of those same engines!
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:03 PM
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Thats a $20k car to me. Once the generation that grew up with those dies off you will be able to get them for that too.

If I was going to blow that kind of money on a classic car, it would be something worth that. A Ferrari, Bugatti, or Duesenberg. Pay $1m for a Bugatti today and 20 years from now it will probably be worth that or more. Cars like those are actualy worth that kind of money.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:05 PM
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The Barrett-Jackson auctions are terrific! Wish I could go someday.

Amazing how nostalgia can fetch such ridiculous figures!!! All for cars that during the fuel crisis of the 70's were getting dumped for a few grand!

Back in high school, most of my senior class drove in less-limited versions of the same cars!

I wonder when the baby-boomers finally die off, if any of these cars will still retain their astronomical values?!!!

After all, these cars were all crappy by today's build standards. Handling was god-awful, and the appointments were cheap and brittle. GMs formula was to stuff giant motors in an anemic coupe, put some decals and disctinctive trim and voila! A muscle car!

Note the waste of fuel and horespower due to the lack of more precise technology. Today's fuel management and induction techniques could extract twice the rated horsepower of those same engines!

My friends and I have talked about this a lot. To use they are just cool old cars, but the value isn't their. For a fun cruising car yeah, but for performance NFW they are dogs. A new Z06 would eat one for lunch on 5 cylinders.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:15 PM
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Whatta load of *****...some garden variety pressed steel production car with a few factory mods.

You just wait...Barret-Jackson and those outfits may have been making a mint selling this crap to the ignorant masses with money to burn but mark my words,the whole shaky edifice'll come crashing down when we have a much-needed "market correction"to put it mildly.
Exactly, this Hemi stuff has me wondering about people sanity.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:18 PM
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In the day,,,, I bought new a 63 Chevy Biscayne, 300 HP, 327 4-speed, a 67 SS396, a 69 W31 F85 coupe with factory 4:33 gears, and 65 Belvedere I with a 383,,, sigh. I could be retired on easy street with what those cars would bring today.
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I think the market is disproving all the disapproval about muscle car values. It's classic "supply vs. demand" at work, just this time it's not about gum scented pieces of paper with ballplayers on it or some pulp magazine introducing a rich guy that likes to fight crime dressed as a bat.

BTW, the same can be said about the mega-million values for the Ferrari GTO or the 300SL Gullwing . . . you could have bought either for a song back in the sixties.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:33 PM
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$2.7M......that is Duesenburg purchasing territory.
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In the day,,,, I bought new a 63 Chevy Biscayne, 300 HP, 327 4-speed, a 67 SS396, a 69 W31 F85 coupe with factory 4:33 gears, .
i had a 70 w-31.man that car for a 350 rocked.faster then hell.and would shake the ground your standing on.in street trim i'd put it up against anything from the 60's-70's.wish i still had that car,but i do still have my 66ss chevelle i bought for $600 in 1979.

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