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Old 12-25-2007, 10:05 PM
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What do you think ?

Are the Media in general responsible, do they seek the truth, or do they do whatever they need to do , to get a story, whether or not the story is correct, accurate, or do they just focus on getting it on TV or to print, before the competition ?

They talk about the Public's right to know, freedom of the press, etc., but very little about the responsibilities of the press, to the public...almost as some would say...the trust that society needs to have in the Press to ensure that they actually do seek the truth ?

What do you think when they ignore cogent stories?

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Mostly they focus on making money. In my opinion they do it in a short-sighted way that leads to a loss of credibility, which in turn eventually leads to a loss of profitability.

In newspapers it's been repeated around the country: new owner comes in, slashes staff, and increases the amount of advertising in the paper. Profits go up and stockholders are happy. But credibility eventually takes a turn for the worse, and the once-trusted source of local news becomes a local joke.

I once worked as a reporter for a paper where this was the case. One Saturday, a local kid was arrested for plotting to shoot-up a school in a city we covered. A serious cache of weapons was recovered. There was only one reporter on staff on the weekends and it happened to be someone who wasn't very good, IMO. This was a national story that attracted CNN, the NY Times, and just about any other national news organization you could think of. We ran an AP story about it even though it happened in our own back yard. To sum it up, we were a terrible newspaper and it wasn't a secret amongst our subscriber base.

I have no experience in TV media but when I tune into cable "news," I think I see the same thing happening. People like O'Reilly and Olberman have followings and sell ads (apparently), but I suspect they ultimately turn more people off than they attract.

I'm sure there are many reasons for the declining numbers of people who turn to traditional outlets for news, but a lack of quality product is a reason that looms large in my mind.

Maybe not exactly what you were asking about, but it came to mind.
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I know a great deal about just a few topics in the world. When the media has had the occasion to report on these topics the results have been disappointing. They never, and I do mean never get the facts straight. I am not referring to media bias, as I am quite sure it exists, only the plain facts of where, when and how. Granted, they could be just screwing up the issues that I know about....? I wish I could say I think that they are trying to manipulate the populace. I fear the reality is they are completely clueless and haphazardly report anything that they think might increase viewership/readership. RT
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Anyway, with the Internet we can access so many different sources of information that we can obtain more points of view than we are capable of synthesizing.
The internet, when it comes to news reporting, is not so much a "wealth of information" as it is noise obscuring the signal. While every cellphone camera on the planet may be able to deliver a picture or clip . . . does it provide the facts or merely sampling the ocean with a thimble? The latter I think.

The internet model of news reporting is scary. If there is no economic model, who pays for the real reporters working on real stories to prevent us from ending up with TMZ or YouTube reporting. If more newspapers can't afford to operate, it's going to be one long sucession of news stories about young caucasian women going missing.
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^^^ I'll bet most (if not all) traditional news sources have websites to which they frequently post news through the day. Finding them can be a PITA, but that's where Google News rocks. It will give tens, if not hundreds of news sources for any major story. Most of them are redundant -- AP or Reuters feed. But with due diligence one can also find original sources for news.

Let's say there's an international story about some hot topic -- Iraq? From my home I can check several Arab news sources, the Hindu Times, New China News, etc. By using the more generic Google I can find all sorts of sources including thoroughly paranoid conspiracies about ANYTHING.

With so many sources, how can one determine which is the most factual? Truthful? As with any event, there are probably multiple competing facts and an elusive truth. Was it better when we 3 TV networks and a dozen major national newspapers to tell us the news? No question in my mind that the current richness of information is far, far preferable.

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The internet, when it comes to news reporting, is not so much a "wealth of information" ......
The internet model of news reporting is scary.
Internet, scary?? LMAO!

If you think this........you're not tuned-into the right sources. Blogs are completely free of the B.S.

Would suggest you do some research, before making ridiculous statements against a 100% FREE Internet........
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Internet, scary?? LMAO!

If you think this........you're not tuned-into the right sources. Blogs are completely free of the B.S.

Would suggest you do some research, before making ridiculous statements against a 100% FREE Internet........
Most "blogs" are mostly B.S. As stated before, anybody can sit at a keyboard and espouse and pontificate . . . where's the reporting, the fact checking, the verification in the blogosphere?

A free internet? Unless someone on the 'net has harnessed the energy of nuclear fusion, then there will always be bills to pay. It's just that some believe that stealing, copyright violation or other methods are justified by a new communication medium. The corruption of Wikipedia is a nice little example of "free" as an economic model.

I'll continue to do research, but only if you promise to start as well.
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Most "blogs" are mostly B.S. As stated before, anybody can sit at a keyboard and espouse and pontificate . . . where's the reporting, the fact checking, the verification in the blogosphere?

A free internet? Unless someone on the 'net has harnessed the energy of nuclear fusion, then there will always be bills to pay. It's just that some believe that stealing, copyright violation or other methods are justified by a new communication medium. The corruption of Wikipedia is a nice little example of "free" as an economic model.

I'll continue to do research, but only if you promise to start as well.
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It seems that much of what appears to be news reporting is really entertainment. Confusion about this would seem to be one of the biggest problems. I don't know if this is anything NEW, though.
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It's going to be an interesting future for "the media." If we just focus on the news divisions, then there is great cause for concern. Newsrooms don't make money. News as entertainment does, because it's a lot cheaper to have a talking-head, like Bill, Rush, Keith or Lou spouting off opinions and "feelings" than it is to have a real investigative reporter following the trails and writing the piece.

How much should we be paying for news reporting and not entertainment?
News is entertainment for some. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder thatn words, whether they be written or spoken. Coming out of these pearly whites, that was rather profound.

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