OVER $40 billion in profits. These guys are laughing to whole way to the bank. I am not upset over the whole gas price thing either. Almost 20 years later and they still won't pay a red cent to the people that lost everything from the Valdez spill. BASTARDS.

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

Tell me how you really feel.

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2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

I'm glad to hear people still buy newspapers. Gives me a sense of job security.

As for Exxon, I have no problem with them making profits, and neither does my car ... it thunders down the highway on immoral fuel the same way it does on other fuel.

Exxon still a publicly traded company, by the way ... anyone who wants a piece can have it. Or you could just complain about them. Or both. It's a world of choices.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Almost anyone who has investments with hedge funds gets a piece of the Exxon action too. Would you buy a newspaper from them if they were committed to losing money? Not sound economic advice for a company to lose money...that's why we have federal, state and local governments.

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2009 E320 Bluetec 117,000
1995 E300D 306,000 Sold
1996 Ford Taurus LX 130,000 Sold
1985 300TD Still 225,000 Sold
2016 Ford Fusion 24,900

Since I own at least a tiny fraction of the company, I am quite pleased that they are making money.

vwbuge - would you prefer that US companies be run so as NOT to make money? *puzzled*

Yeah, buying shares in these companies certainly takes the sting out of all those "immoral profits," eh?

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OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

you guys just aren't seeing the bigger picture here are you?

Take a look, this is a pretty thorough piece. Look under "litigation"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

I don't get it. If you are mad at Exxon, how could you not be madder at (1. The US Constitution, (2. The 9th Cir., and (3. The US Supreme Court?

For some strange reason, I feel better about huge conglomerates making buckets of money, rather than the Vanderbilts, Melons, or Rockefellers owning an industry and keeping it all in their family empires. As mentioned above, you can buy into the action if you so choose. The only other option is price controls, and we saw where that ended up.

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1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

Wait a minute. You don't think they'remaking all that money off of newspapers, do you?

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OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Seems like the Judge and the Ninth Circuit can't get on the same page over this $5 billion dollar Punitive damage verdict. Hasn't the Ninth Circuit twice kicked this back to the judge and, in doing so, told him the verdict is unconstitutional?
And of the 4.3 billion in fines already paid, did I read that something on the order of 300 million went to individuals affected by the spill?
Now, I would tend to believe the Ninth Circuit is no friend of Exxon. Is this case on appeal to the US Supreme Court?

I don't have a dog in this fight, but they're entitled to their day(s) in court, no?

And, to repeat, if you can't beat them, join them.

http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/investor_dividend_reinvestment.aspx

"Happy Motoring"....

(An old Esso/Humble slogan iirc.)

Anybody who refers to Esso is revealing either their age or location. Hee hee hee. Don't they still go by Esso in Canada? I never knew why they changed their name here.

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" We have nothing to fear but the main stream media itself . . . ."- Adapted from Franklin D Roosevelt for the 21st century

OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Two things a man can't choose: His parents and his birth date.
The rest is up to him.

And what was the Sinclair dinosauer's name?
(I knew that woud get a comment out of you D.)

I can see him, but can't recall his name, both evidence of MY age, I guess . . . What was the question?

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OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Look Sport...Money is money and so long as we exist in and support an unregulated free-market economy,little,piddling Morality issues are irrelevant.

The whole system of Venture Capital is predicated upon the fact that a fat balance sheet is good for the investors who have risked their money,not to mention the employment factor.....

So,we have Monopolies,and there may perhaps be manifold abuses which on occasion stick in our craw,but can you outline a better system?would you have eveything regulated so that there will be paltry incentive to strive for a profit?