We are already subsidising folks who have no insurance. They go to the emergency room when too sick to work any more and it costs five times as much as a doctors office visit. They can't pay so all of us with insurance pay twice as much for ours.

If everybody has it the cost must be the same and folks would be healthier and more productive.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

If you read her plan, she is targeting people who making $75,000 a year or more, do you think they are the ones going to the ER for free care?

Do you think the insurance industry will reduce premiums?

Honestly, I feel like I'm 21 going on 79. Too many people are bitter, hardened, selfish, and judgmental. It's quite sad. I don't know where all of these negative emotions come from, but it's really unpleasant. These harsh feelings pop up again and again on various message boards in threads about health care and the economy.

I remember a Latin teacher I had in Grade 9, although she wasn't bitter or hardened, she was certainly selfish and judgmental. She didn't believe in 'slow learners' nor did she believe in 'dyslexia'. Ignorant and stupid and poor and lazy were all synonymous to her. She was a Seven Sisters alumna, this fact is something all students learned on the first day of Latin I. She would always talk about the other kids who were 'too stupid or lazy to take Latin'. Sometimes she would talk about her successful lawyer husband for half the class, he was the ideal husband, I'm sure she had half the boys hoping they could marry a man like her husband. Life was very simple for her, very black and white. Once her classroom door closed her students became kings and queens, the other students who opted for Spanish became morons. Putting these kids down was her main joy him life. She emboldened us with a sense of undeserved pride.

When I was in grade 11 she gave birth to a child who had quite a few health issues. Soon after that she moved to Washington,DC. About a year ago I found out that her child is autistic and she has had to stop working. She pays $6,000+ per month for her childs care. Her marriage has failed under the strain. Some of my former classmates were really shocked by this, no one can believe this happened to Mrs S. of all people. Some of you remind me of Mrs S. I'm agnostic, but after reading Alan Dershowitz's book I think often of the phrase "there but for the grace of god go I", it's quite à propos.

On TV Land a few weeks ago I was watching a sitcom from the 1980s, the one with John Stamos. In the show the little girl snaps her finger and says she has a plan, "BA, MBA, BMW". I think some of us should realize everything is not always so black and white.

Things don't always go according to your plan even if you have one.

Its a good thing not to get too smug.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

On that last word, maybe you could reflect on it a moment before proceeding.

This country could use a few rogue doctors, self taught, roaming the land ala Robert De Niro in "Brazil".

Other considered response:

Every doctor needs a pimp, every pimp needs a cop, every cop needs a priest... I think this analogy has pretty well disintegrated now.

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831799&postcount=13
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831807&postcount=14

No, GOD DOES!

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

Then let him pay my insurance.

Seeing as how he made us in his image, he probably won't pay.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

I heard the check is in the mail.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

People who take care of themselves don't need insurance and shouldn't have to pay for people who don't take care of themselves.

"Universal Health Insurance" is political propaganda speak for allowing health insurance companies to become taxing authorities.

Boycott "for profit" health insurance companies. They are a negative influence on humanity.

Food companies and polluters wreck your health and then drug companies and the "health system" pick your bones.