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Old 03-07-2008, 08:17 PM
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Apparently more proof, that there is indeed, bliss in ignorance.

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Old 03-07-2008, 08:23 PM
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OIC, the statement is based on a limited number of data points. Thanks!
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:28 PM
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OIC, the statement is based on a limited number of data points. Thanks!
I'll bet if I had LexisNexis I could find a whole bunch.

Wanna bet?
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Sounds like a Timothy Mc Viegh situation. Becomes incensed over unjust killing and commits unjust killing.
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:59 PM
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Sounds like a Timothy Mc Viegh situation. Becomes incensed over unjust killing and commits unjust killing.
Leaving aside for moment the argument as to whether this or that killing is justified, Hamas claimed responsibility.... That would be considerably different from McVeigh. Unless you can offer-up a group who claimed responsibility for McVeigh.

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Old 03-07-2008, 11:06 PM
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Leaving aside for moment the argument as to whether this or that killing is justified, Hamas claimed responsibility.... That would be considerably different from McVeigh. Unless you can offer-up a group who claimed responsibility for McVeigh.

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Can you provide 1 or 2 articles/links to the fact that Hamas claimed responsibility?
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Old 03-08-2008, 12:54 AM
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JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The deadly attack on a Jewish seminary in Jerusalem Thursday was planned by an operation with purported ties to Hezbollah, the Shiite militant group in Lebanon, Palestinian militant sources in Gaza said.
The information that the group Free Men of Galilee planned the attack was provided to CNN amid news reports that Hamas, the Palestinian movement that runs Gaza, claimed responsibility.

But sources within the Hamas military wing specifically denied to CNN any involvement in the attack.

Other Palestinian militant sources said Hamas leaders in the West Bank and Gaza are not claiming responsibility for the attack.

The Palestinian militant sources say the shooter was a member of Hamas but was acting on marching orders from outside Gaza and the West Bank.
Hezbollah is based in Lebanon; Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal is exiled in Syria.

The shootings killed eight students at the religious school. One of them was American, the U.S. State Department said Friday.

Another American was "severely wounded," according to State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey.
He said the United States passed along its condolences to families, but could provide no further details because of privacy laws.

A Jerusalem police spokesman on Friday identified the shooter as Ala Abu Dehein from East Jerusalem's Jabel Mukaber neighborhood.
Police said Abu Dehein was employed as a driver and held an identity card that Israel issues to Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem.

Abu Dehein's family told The Associated Press he was the gunman. They told AP he was very religious, but was not a member of a militant group.
Abu Dehein's sister told AP he had been very upset recently over violence in Gaza. "He told me he wasn't able to sleep because of the grief," she said.

After the shootings, a general closure of the West Bank and Gaza went into effect early Friday and "will be lifted according to security assessments," a statement from Israel Defense Forces said.
Hundreds of Israelis gathered at the school Friday to mourn the students who were killed in Thursday's attack. The grief-stricken crowd spilled outside the school and onto the surrounding streets.

Hours later, the U.N. Security Council met to discuss a public statement condemning the attack as terrorism, but couldn't reach a consensus. The council said Libya -- a new, nonpermanent member -- blocked the statement.
The students, ages 15 to 26, were killed Thursday night after a gunman armed with an automatic weapon and a handgun slipped into the school and began shooting.

At least nine others were wounded before an off-duty Israel Defense Forces officer shot the gunman dead, Jerusalem District Police commander Aharon Franko said.

A first responder told CNN that the bodies were found on the floor of the study hall surrounded by holy books.
Video from Thursday's scene showed a frantic crowd of rescue workers carrying bloodied victims into ambulances. Dozens of police officers were scouring the campus and streets around the yeshiva in case there were other gunmen.

Outside the school, scores of Israeli men gathered from surrounding neighborhoods, demanding justice for the attack.

Authorities are calling the incident at West Jerusalem's Merkaz Harav yeshiva an act of terrorism. The school is one of the largest seminaries in Israel, with about 500 students in the yeshiva and 200 in a advanced graduate program.

"Israel is at the forefront of the struggle against terrorism and will continue to defend its citizens, who are exposed to this threat on a daily basis," Israel's Foreign Ministry said in a written statement.
"Israel expects the nations of the world to support it in its war against those who murder students, women and children, by any means and with respect for neither place nor target."

Meanwhile, intense celebratory shooting took place in Gaza City after the news of the attack, with hundreds chanting and clapping in the streets. But Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas condemned the attack.
"The Palestinian Authority condemns any attack on innocent civilians," Abbas' office said in a written statement.
The shootings came just a day after U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who met with both Israelis and Palestinians, announced that peace talks will resume between the two both sides.


Abbas suspended peace negotiations last week after fierce fighting broke out between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza. But he agreed to resume negotiations after meeting with Rice.
Israel will continue peace talks with the Palestinians regardless of the attack in Jerusalem, Foreign Ministry spokesman Aryeh Mekel said Thursday.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:18 AM
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Can you provide 1 or 2 articles/links to the fact that Hamas claimed responsibility?
Jew hater?.......I mean really....Cut the "PC" crap.....Why don't you fess up to your agenda??


Its obvious you have a beef against.. Isriael...Your a dead give away....
You know where I stand............

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Old 03-08-2008, 02:01 AM
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I don't know where you stand and neither do I see any 'jew hating' reference in those posts.

But I do think you've been drilled to have the perception you have ...
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Old 03-08-2008, 02:26 AM
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I don't know where you stand and neither do I see any 'jew hating' reference in those posts.
"""I don't know where you stand and neither do I see any 'jew hating' reference in those posts."""

You cut out this:...

Its obvious you have a beef against.. Isriael...Your a dead give away....

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Jew Hater?..Jew hating was not a referance!....It was a Q?......Ansewer the question....."BS rules" dont fly with me....

And, Yes.. You know where "I" stand....playing stupid dont fly either...
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:05 AM
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"""I don't know where you stand and neither do I see any 'jew hating' reference in those posts."""

You cut out this:...

Its obvious you have a beef against.. Isriael...Your a dead give away....

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Jew Hater?..Jew hating was not a referance!....It was a Q?......Ansewer the question....."BS rules" dont fly with me....

And, Yes.. You know where "I" stand....playing stupid dont fly either...
I don't have enough qualms to carry out any emotion of hatred towards anyone.

I do reserve the right to critize who or whatever I deem to be worthy of my critic.

What seems to bother you, is the fact that I don't simply say what you expect me to say.

At the end of the day, it won't even matter how I articulate myself, it will not change "where" you stand anyways. So what's the fuzz?

You express at least as much disregard about Muslims. Would I ask you if you are a Muslim-Hater?

The conflict is long beyond Jew, Muslim, Christian whatever. You are made to believe, it is about Religion, reality is though, it is about Greed, Power, Wealth, Politics. It has very little to do with Judaism, Islam and/or Christianity. And neither is it about GOD.
If those religions would truly fall into place, or if it would be about GOD, we wouldn't have this kind of conflict.

You are a person who believes and thinks within those frameworks.
I don't.
I am not a follower of religious concepts and therefor I am not a follower of warfare that "supposedly" stems from religious differences.

Fact of the matter, I can write another page and it probably won't make a difference.

America is not about Israel.
If you wish to give America away for Israel, go ahead! Just don't come back crying.

I stand for America and the place I am originating from.
That should be clear enough.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:05 AM
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Its obvious you have a beef against.. Isriael...Your a dead give away....
I mean, really, just think about it.

Am I obligated to "like" or "dislike" according to instructions?
Is that what you call the "Free World" !

Just think about it, Matt ... <<< enough?
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:21 AM
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Hey Guido....Its called free will......

I will take your above posts as a , yes.........Isrieal/ Jews ....You have no love for them.......

Too answer your Q, I have no beef/malice toward Musliams....I do have hatred for radical Isliam...aka Terrorist.........

And yes you know where I stand!!...Jesus Is LORD!!...

Just because we don't agree on every subject....Does not mean, I don't consider you a friend!!!
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:34 AM
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Hey Guido....Its called free will......

I will take your above posts as a , yes.........Isrieal/ Jews ....You have no love for them.......

Too answer your Q, I have no beef/malice toward Musliams....I do have hatred for radical Isliam...aka Terrorist.........

And yes you know where I stand!!...Jesus Is LORD!!...

Just because we don't agree on every subject....Does not mean, I don't consider you a friend!!!
Well, that's good.

Speaking about "Love" we would have to identify, what "Love" really means.

I have learned to pratice "Love" within a very narrow radius of myself.
The fact that I don't love someone, doesn't mean I feel hate for someone.

I still carry a great deal of understanding and social consideration with me on a consistent bases.

So, well, you may call them "Terrorists", I have very little tolerance for violence and at the same tolken, I have no tolerance for liars, traitors, corrupters, rapists etc.

As far as Israel goes, it is a difficult chapter for human civilization and there is no indication that this is going to change any time soon.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:45 AM
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Well, that's good.

Speaking about "Love" we would have to identify, what "Love" really means.

I have learned to pratice "Love" within a very narrow radius of myself.
The fact that I don't love someone, doesn't mean I feel hate for someone.

I still carry a great deal of understanding and social consideration with me on a consistent bases.

So, well, you may call them "Terrorists", I have very little tolerance for violence and at the same tolken, I have no tolerance for liars, traitors, corrupters, rapists etc.

As far as Israel goes, it is a difficult chapter for human civilization and there is no indication that this is going to change any time soon.
Oh man...Did you say LIARS???....So you have no tolerance for yourself???...Everyone on this planet is a liar...no...........

How did like my Ricky Ricardo imperssination?....

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