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Old 05-10-2008, 12:15 AM
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What's this?! Knightrider966 saying something that makes some sense?

Well, I guess I'll have to re-evaluate the situation here.

I'm thinking we all need to get into the kind of irrigation the Israelis have been using for awhile, the drip kind.

Some of my hippie pals up in the dry Okanogan county region of E. Wash. use that as they frequently have very limited supplies of water on their land.

Meanwhile, I seriously need to get off my behind and perfect the incredible new, cmac2012, pat. pending 2 gallon shower. Urban, human water use is only about 20% or so of total usage, with most going to Ag. (I think anyway), but still, water districts are always trying to encourage folks to use less at home.
Well, guess what? All us conservative libertarian Republican Redneck gun totin' hat wearin' pistol packin' cowboys are not all nuts are we? HMMM Whoda thunk a redneck has a brain and is conscious of the world around 'em!

Actually this is a common thread in conservatism, not the kind the media talks about. Conservatism means just that, TO CONSERVE! WASTE NOT WANT NOT! WOW! Actually I like the Israel type of watering system, we have been using it in Arizona since the 1920's. Drip irrigation is the best way to make the most responsible use of water!

Gooly gee whiz, wouldja believe we have wind generators and solar panels too! Hot damn, the next thing I'll be sayin' is I run my Dodge Ram 4X4 truck as a workhorse, not a commute vehicle and fuel it with Biodiesel made from animal waste and desert Algae! Nxt thing ya'll know I might be sayin' that we don't use cleaners like bleach or ammonia because of what they do to the ecosystem and how they poison a septic tank drain field, or that I plant native graases and wildflowers in my drain field to keep it healthy and watch it's bacterial process. Or maybe I use Envirosafe refrigerants because they are non toxic and don't contribute to blobal warming and cost 40% less in energy costs to use and have a backup battery system to go along with the solar panels and AW SHUCKS! I even ride my horse inta town to get my mail and by what I needs at the local feed store or hit my favourite waterin' hole where i let go with with a few of my ole' country favourite or somethin"! Oh that's right I do!


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Old 05-10-2008, 12:57 AM
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We are living on our capital:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/09/MNGMV7TFN.DTL&hw=india+groundwater&sn=001&sc=1000

Experts say the depletion of groundwater is a major threat to food security and economic stability in India, China, the United States, Mexico, Spain and North Africa. In China, the agricultural use of groundwater has skyrocketed, causing water tables to drop in many places by a rate of 5 feet a year.
That's exactly why W made himself already a bigtime land owner in Paraguay, which sits atop of the Guarani Aquifer, which way under spreads out into Brazil, Argentina etc. as well.

Funny stuff is, how as a President you can actually arrange for joint military training with the local government and move troops right where you need it ... maybe, in the future.

Also, the Jacob Blaustein Institue is eagerly working it's way into the scenario, preferably via OAS and World Bank connections, to be contracted as the primary managerial organ for the future use of the Aquifer.

If South Americans only knew, who's after their water ... activist groups in Argentina are up in arms already .

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Wonder of wonders, somebody gets it. If the farmers have no reason to contain costs they will act out of mere convenience.

Can anybody think of any other goods or SERVICES that might follow this model?
Believe it or not, there are times I think that having all roadways operated as privately owned toll roads would reduce unnecessary travel. OTOH, that could and probably would lead to all sorts of innefficiencies with people waiting in long lines to pay tolls. We have a FasTrak system here in the Bay Area for zipping through bridge toll booths that works pretty well, I do it, but it's amazing how many people would rather wait in long lines than zip on through.

Perhaps also, if military zealots didn't have a major spiggot always open for monies to build virtually every Rube Goldberg weapons or defense system that is dreamt up, we might see a bit more practicality in that area.

And FWIW, I've never advocated unlimited free medical care. Giving liver transplants to street drunks will never fly, and shouldn't.

Any complete coverage system will have to have serious triage type measures in place, along with small community health centers that focus on prevention.

As it is now, poor people get very little preventitive care or advice and then show up in emergency rooms with advanced conditions where they get very expensive care that we (as a whole) don't have the gumption to deny them.
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out here in iowa whats eating up our water is the damn ethanol plants
OMG. Futurist Kunstler likes to quote a midwestern farmer who says something like, "looks like we're going to put the last 10 inches of our topsoil into the gas tank."

I always had misgivings about widespread use of biofuels cuz I had been reading about water and topsoil issues way back when, early 80s.
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That's exactly why W made himself already a bigtime land owner in Paraguay, which sits atop of the Guarani Aquifer, which way under spreads out into Brazil, Argentina etc. as well.

Funny stuff is, how as a President you can actually arrange for joint military training with the local government and move troops right where you need it ... maybe, in the future.

Also, the Jacob Blaustein Institue is eagerly working it's way into the scenario, preferably via OAS and World Bank connections, to be contracted as the primary managerial organ for the future use of the Aquifer.

If South Americans only knew, who's after their water ... activist groups in Argentina are up in arms already .

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Old 05-11-2008, 01:47 AM
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Your pair of flags must be one for yourself and another for Mr B, I suppose.
You'll be surprised how quickly they'll make it to a mere 'half mast' position ...
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Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway

Meeting the new couple next door can be an anxious business for even the most relaxed home owner. Will they be international drug traffickers? Have they got noisy kids with a penchant for electronic music?

As worries go, however, having the US president move in next door must come fairly low on the list.

Unless of course you are a resident of northern Paraguay and believe reports in the South American press that he has bought up a 100,000 acre (40,500 hectare) ranch in your neck of the woods.

The rumours, as yet unconfirmed but which began with the state-run Cuban news agency Prensa Latina, have triggered an outpouring of conspiracy theories, with speculation rife about what President Bush's supposed interest in the "chaco", a semi-arid lowland in the Paraguay's north, might be.

Some have speculated that he might be trying to wrestle control of the Guarani Aquifer, one of the largest underground water reserves, from the Paraguayans.

Rumours of Mr Bush's supposed forays into South American real estate surfaced during a recent 10-day visit to the country by his daughter Jenna Bush.
Little is known about her trip to Paraguay, although officially she travelled with the UN children's agency Unicef to visit social projects.

Photographers from the Paraguayan newspaper ABC Color tracked her down to one restaurant in Paraguay's capital Asunción, where she was seen flanked by 10 security guards, and was also reported to have met Paraguay's president, Nicanor Duarte, and the US ambassador to Paraguay, James Cason.

Reports in sections of the Paraguayan media suggested she was sent on a family "mission" to tie up the land purchase in the "chaco".

Erasmo Rodríguez Acosta, the governor of the Alto Paraguay region where Mr Bush's new acquisition supposedly lies, told one Paraguayan news agency there were indications that Mr Bush had bought land in Paso de Patria, near the border with Brazil and Bolivia. He was, however, unable to prove this, he added.

Last week the Paraguayan news group Neike suggested that Ms Bush was in Paraguay to "visit the land acquired by her father - relatively close to the Brazilian Pantanal [wetlands] and the Bolivian gas reserves".

The US presence in Paraguay has been under scrutiny since May 2005 when the country's Congress agreed to allow 400 American marines to operate there for 18 months in exchange for financial aid.

At the time many viewed the arrival of troops as a sign that Washington was trying to monitor US business interests in neighbouring Bolivia, after the election of Evo Morales, a leftwing leader who promised to nationalise his country's natural gas industry.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips
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OMG. Futurist Kunstler likes to quote a midwestern farmer who says something like, "looks like we're going to put the last 10 inches of our topsoil into the gas tank."

I always had misgivings about widespread use of biofuels cuz I had been reading about water and topsoil issues way back when, early 80s.
I couldn't agree more on Ethanol! Biodiesel is another story altogether though and this difference needs to be clarified. Biodiesel is made most efficiently from Waste products. Ethanol from corn is pretty dumb and dim if you ask me! It takes 400 lbs of corn to make 25 gallons of ethanol and that 25 gallons of ethanol only contains the energy of 18 gallons of gasoline!

Biodiesel from waste products is the way to go. Much more efficient and you don't have to strip your land planting soy on it should you choose to do so for fuel. We found the best way to enrich the soils around here is to take all the horse*****, cow***** and the like, bat, goose, duck, chicken, etc and till it back into the dirt.

You wouldn't believe what can grow in that *****!
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:32 AM
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Wonder of wonders, somebody gets it. If the farmers have no reason to contain costs they will act out of mere convenience.

Can anybody think of any other goods or SERVICES that might follow this model?

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Whats worse is that the very same farmers sell electricity to run small scale industries and the cities suffer with regular brownouts.
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Oh Yeah?

Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway

Meeting the new couple next door can be an anxious business for even the most relaxed home owner. Will they be international drug traffickers? Have they got noisy kids with a penchant for electronic music?

As worries go, however, having the US president move in next door must come fairly low on the list.

Unless of course you are a resident of northern Paraguay and believe reports in the South American press that he has bought up a 100,000 acre (40,500 hectare) ranch in your neck of the woods.
Your take sound eminently plausible to me. Whether or not he could ever wrest control of the aquifer from anyone, I can only imagine that he will be able to drop wells where ever he feels like it and raise herds of cattle til the cows come home. Finally take a shot at being a real cowboy.

I had previously thought that perhaps he feels like he'd have a safer post-presidency there than here and that was his motivation. Who knows, I do know that I was fed up years ago with being told that my and other's objection to our Poser In Chief was based on pathological hatred and nothing else.
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Whats worse is that the very same farmers sell electricity to run small scale industries and the cities suffer with regular brownouts.
People in general can be really stupid.
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People in general can be really stupid.
Well in this case, selfish seems more appropriate.
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Well in this case, selfish seems more appropriate.
Stupid, selfish, it's all the same result, isn't it? Why shouldn't they be selfish? We are selfish people but most won't admit it.
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Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway

Meeting the new couple next door can be an anxious business for even the most relaxed home owner. Will they be international drug traffickers? Have they got noisy kids with a penchant for electronic music?

As worries go, however, having the US president move in next door must come fairly low on the list.

Unless of course you are a resident of northern Paraguay and believe reports in the South American press that he has bought up a 100,000 acre (40,500 hectare) ranch in your neck of the woods.

The rumours, as yet unconfirmed but which began with the state-run Cuban news agency Prensa Latina, have triggered an outpouring of conspiracy theories, with speculation rife about what President Bush's supposed interest in the "chaco", a semi-arid lowland in the Paraguay's north, might be.

Some have speculated that he might be trying to wrestle control of the Guarani Aquifer, one of the largest underground water reserves, from the Paraguayans.

Rumours of Mr Bush's supposed forays into South American real estate surfaced during a recent 10-day visit to the country by his daughter Jenna Bush.
Little is known about her trip to Paraguay, although officially she travelled with the UN children's agency Unicef to visit social projects.

Photographers from the Paraguayan newspaper ABC Color tracked her down to one restaurant in Paraguay's capital Asunción, where she was seen flanked by 10 security guards, and was also reported to have met Paraguay's president, Nicanor Duarte, and the US ambassador to Paraguay, James Cason.

Reports in sections of the Paraguayan media suggested she was sent on a family "mission" to tie up the land purchase in the "chaco".

Erasmo Rodríguez Acosta, the governor of the Alto Paraguay region where Mr Bush's new acquisition supposedly lies, told one Paraguayan news agency there were indications that Mr Bush had bought land in Paso de Patria, near the border with Brazil and Bolivia. He was, however, unable to prove this, he added.

Last week the Paraguayan news group Neike suggested that Ms Bush was in Paraguay to "visit the land acquired by her father - relatively close to the Brazilian Pantanal [wetlands] and the Bolivian gas reserves".

The US presence in Paraguay has been under scrutiny since May 2005 when the country's Congress agreed to allow 400 American marines to operate there for 18 months in exchange for financial aid.

At the time many viewed the arrival of troops as a sign that Washington was trying to monitor US business interests in neighbouring Bolivia, after the election of Evo Morales, a leftwing leader who promised to nationalise his country's natural gas industry.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips
Did you read what you posted?

If that's what you use as evidence for support of an argument, I have some great investment opportunities for you.

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PS here's a great site for info: http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f11/planned-bush-land-purchase-paraguay-4220.html


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