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Old 05-15-2008, 12:16 AM
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I don't know my Jewish friends crack some pretty racist Jewish jokes with me. Maybe its because we know eachother so well we know its all in good fun.

I do see your point, and most likely that was the bar owners intent. However its a free country. The protesters got their say, he got his say, and thats that.

I'm an old school Yankee and depending on who you ask WASP'ish. So the cheap jokes strike close to home! I'm so offended! We Yankee's are not CHEAP, we just don't like spending money thats all!!!

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:27 AM
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I don't know my Jewish friends crack some pretty racist Jewish jokes with me. Maybe its because we know eachother so well we know its all in good fun.

I do see your point, and most likely that was the bar owners intent. However its a free country. The protesters got their say, he got his say, and thats that.

I'm an old school Yankee and depending on who you ask WASP'ish. So the cheap jokes strike close to home! I'm so offended! We Yankee's are not CHEAP, we just don't like spending money thats all!!!
Until that post about your history prof tracing his ancestry back to the Mayflower, I had always thought you were an Italian-American, then you told us your family had been over here since the early 1700s and had settled part of Mass. It's great to know so much about your history.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:33 AM
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I don't know my Jewish friends crack some pretty racist Jewish jokes with me. Maybe its because we know eachother so well we know its all in good fun.

I do see your point, and most likely that was the bar owners intent. However its a free country. The protesters got their say, he got his say, and thats that.

I'm an old school Yankee and depending on who you ask WASP'ish. So the cheap jokes strike close to home! I'm so offended! We Yankee's are not CHEAP, we just don't like spending money thats all!!!
Not *ALL* the time, if you can buy and drink Stoli instead of cheap booze.

Good priorities; works for me.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:02 AM
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Until that post about your history prof tracing his ancestry back to the Mayflower, I had always thought you were an Italian-American, then you told us your family had been over here since the early 1700s and had settled part of Mass. It's great to know so much about your history.
No Italian in me, my best bud is second generation Italian/Polish though.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:04 AM
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Not *ALL* the time, if you can buy and drink Stoli instead of cheap booze.

Good priorities; works for me.
I rather drink good booze than pay $100 a month for some damn cell phone or flashy shoes.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:38 AM
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:12 AM
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Sorry Hat but I disagree. I am jewish. Making a joke about me being 'cheap' is going to be interpreted quite differently than a joke about you being 'cheap'. It is different and you know it.

Blacks in this nation have endured centuries of degradation. They were compared to the ape family as I recall (and not in a favorable way). Make fun of his speech patterns, his ears or what ever. Comparing him to a monkey is like putting his likeness on a Union Jack or a white robe. There are certain lines that should not be crossed and that racist crossed it with both feet.

Having said that, it is a free country and everyone has the right to show the world what kind of person they are. That bar own just put is character on display for the world to see. Racist white trash still exists in the the USA.
I agree.

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Old 05-15-2008, 07:17 AM
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I'm an old school Yankee and depending on who you ask WASP'ish. So the cheap jokes strike close to home! I'm so offended! We Yankee's are not CHEAP, we just don't like spending money thats all!!!
I prefer the term frugal.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:22 AM
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Perhaps, (as he said in the interview) that he saw the resemblance between curious George and Obama and never meant for it to be a racist intent...

...he seems old enough to have been around to know about the racist ape references to blacks, so I don't buy that one.

And if he is an ultra conservative, why would he make t-shirts promoting an opponent candidate, unless his intent was to demean the opponent in some manner?

Sorry, his version of the story doesn't hold water...
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:50 AM
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:59 AM
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The shirt was obviously in poor taste.

Since when are Americans not allowed to have poor taste?

Fact is, the current president has been displayed as a chimp on this very forum, probably by some of the very members complaining about the Obomma chimp caracature. I didn;t see Obomma complaining when the same tactic was used against Bush. Why are Dimmercrats surprised when their own tactics are turned against them??
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:50 AM
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Thats good old fashion brutal American politic's.

BTW I will keep a close eye on this thread.
You are wrong, Hatt.

It’s not good old fashion brutal American politics at all.

It’s good old fashion brutal American racism. And there’s nothing “good” about it.

Stick with keeping a close eye on the thread.
Beyond that, you may have missed the boat on this one.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:06 AM
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Geezzz….Get off your political high horse.

Fact is, this isn’t about politics and/or the “dimmercrats”.

It’s about a racist t-shirt.

Sure, we’re allowed to have poor taste.
Sure, we’re allowed freedom of speech and personal expression.

And with that said; I guess then we can all run around calling every African American we see a chimp, ape, spook, n*g**r. Whatever. And I guess that would be allowed.

Fact is, “Allowed”, and “Right” are two different things.
Some here, need to start learning the difference.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:08 AM
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The shirt was obviously in poor taste.

Since when are Americans not allowed to have poor taste?

Fact is, the current president has been displayed as a chimp on this very forum, probably by some of the very members complaining about the Obomma chimp caracature. I didn;t see Obomma complaining when the same tactic was used against Bush. Why are Dimmercrats surprised when their own tactics are turned against them??
No complaints here...offensive or not, don't deny the intent. Portraying Bush as a chimp is intended to be offensive. Doing the same for Obama gets the same effect, but with the added tone of racism due to the association of apes to blacks hailing from the early era of this noble country's history.

The point is, the shirt was meant to illicit a chuckle from the Obama opposition, or a snarl from supporters. We all get that. What I don't buy is that he plays ignorant with regards to how chose to bring about his intended effect...
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:12 AM
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What I don't buy is that he plays ignorant with regards to how chose to bring about his intended effect...
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I certainly had a quick “yeh…right” when he said it was about the ears, hair line, etc.
Sure buddy…

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