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aklim · #76 06-03-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC

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Because he is a right wing neocon wanna be, lemming follower, that
thinks if he tries to help fan the flames the other Repuglatards will
like him, and invite him into the club.

Doesn't realize there is no club to join, just pupet masters at the top...

RichC

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Thank the heavens above we have the Democrats. They NEVER do anything wrong. If only we voted them in for ALL elections, the world would be a wonderful place.

Idolotor · #77 06-03-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Thank the heavens above we have the Democrats. They NEVER do anything wrong. If only we voted them in for ALL elections, the world would be a wonderful place.

I've never been poor enough to NEED to be a Democrat. Never needed government assistance or handouts.

But... if gas hits $6.00 a gallon I'm voting for Obama!

RichC · #78 06-03-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Idolotor

I've never been poor enough to NEED to be a Democrat. Never needed government assistance or handouts.

But... if gas hits $6.00 a gallon I'm voting for Obama!

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Ask yourself this.
Seeing that gas will eventually reach $6.00 a gallon and above despite
almost anything we can do.

What administrations have been in office during the largest increases
in gas prices ??

The week that president Bush took office the price of gas jumped 70%
from $1.47 to $2.50 per gallon.

Since he has been in office the cost of a barrel of oil has gone from
$30.63 to over $130.63

Similar increases can be seen during most of the recent Republican run administrations.

Current Gas Prices and Price History

RichC
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aklim · #79 06-03-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC

What administrations have been in office during the largest increasesin gas prices ??

The week that president Bush took office the price of gas jumped 70%
from $1.47 to $2.50 per gallon.

Since he has been in office the cost of a barrel of oil has gone from
$30.63 to over $130.63

Similar increases can be seen during most of the recent Republican run administrations.

Got any proof that the administration manipulated the price?

Absolute nonsense. Whatever you have been drinking, make me a double.

And the value of the USD has dropped. Things have also changed.

Did we get an Emperor or a President? IIRC, we got a President so he cannot be the only one to make these wonderful things happen.

Lay off the sauce and try figure something out like how he did it.

Matt SD300 · #80 06-03-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jlomon

Who does a Christian owe their faith to, God or their reverend? How do you reconcile the things that have been said by both of the pastors with the basic tenets of Christianity? Is it Christian to openly mock people? Is that showing charity? Is that turning the other cheek? Turning swords into ploughshares and all that good stuff?

I think it is just as easy to make the argument that Obama chose his faith when his reverend seemed to forget about it.

Again, I don't think Obama would make a good president. But this is just the sort of garbage that clouds a political campaign and takes people's eyes off the issues.

"GOD and reverend" are one in the same....

Let me explain...........

Psa 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people he hath commanded his covenant forever holy, and reverend is his name.

See...reverend appearers only one time in the Holy Bible... "Reverend" is a title/name reserved for God only!!

That said I have no reverence for a dude that uses reverend in in his name/title too elevate his stastice....

Organized religion is plagued with many heresies today.......

aklim · #81 06-03-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

"GOD and reverend" are one in the same....

Let me explain...........

Psa 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people he hath commanded his covenant forever holy, and reverend is his name.

See...reverend appearers only one time in the Holy Bible... "Reverend" is a title/name reserved for God only!!

That said I have no reverence for a dude that uses reverend in in his name/title too elevate his stastice....

Organized religion is plagued with many heresies today.......

Reverend:

1. (initial capital letter) (used as a title of respect applied or prefixed to the name of a member of the clergy or a religious order): Reverend Timothy Cranshaw; Reverend Mother.
2. worthy to be revered; entitled to reverence.
3. pertaining to or characteristic of the clergy.
–noun
4. Informal. a member of the clergy.

111:9 He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend [is] his name.

I think you are missing out a few bits of punctuation that might make things more meaningful

Give Obama time. He might wise up and decide he doesn't need this religion at all. First step is to walk away from the mess. 2nd step is to stay away from the mess.

cmac2012 · #82 06-03-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Oh, I thought you were implying that happened where I am from. My mistake.

I dunno, it IS a bit low to always try to beat up on the south for that stuff, the whole south I mean, cuz even when it was a large crowd doing it, they still amounted to (I'm guessing) way less than 1% of the population of that particular county.

I just don't get this crying of RACIST! when most all of us still have it within us. It's only natural, just a form of tribalism all in all, and when push comes to shove, you're much more likely to stick with your tribe than to try to reach out to strangers.

cmac2012 · #83 06-03-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jlomon

Who does a Christian owe their faith to, God or their reverend? How do you reconcile the things that have been said by both of the pastors with the basic tenets of Christianity? Is it Christian to openly mock people? Is that showing charity? Is that turning the other cheek? Turning swords into ploughshares and all that good stuff?

I think it is just as easy to make the argument that Obama chose his faith when his reverend seemed to forget about it.

Again, I don't think Obama would make a good president. But this is just the sort of garbage that clouds a political campaign and takes people's eyes off the issues.

Well put. Obama, warts and all, strikes me as way more balanced in his view of people, racism, etc. than either of the boneheads in question.

I go with the line from the Tao Teh Ching: "the wise man is grateful for even a faint light, for what little light it gives."

Could be he saw that the preacher was doing way better than the average pimp or wife-beater and chose to work with him in spite of his occasional wackiness.

Palangi · #84 06-03-2008, 10:05 PM

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/cardinal-removes-pfleger-from-chicago-parish/

cmac2012 · #85 06-03-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe

The first picture of a 'hanging tree' I saw when I clicked on his link was of one taken in California. Maybe he should have gone to the site first and vetted it for hypocrisy

I'm sorry, did I ever say that California was somehow above the fray? Not sure if they were any more or less vicious in wiping out the red man here than elsewhere but they went at it with considerable relish, if I can believe what I read.

And why would this state, then or now, have some sort of claim to higher moral ground? Drew its population from the same pool of hungry European (mostly) immigrants as the rest of the country.

And the treatment of Chinese railroad workers in Cal. was truly shabby. Word I've read is that they outperformed Euros on average in part, it's speculated, because their diet was superior: greens, rice, fish, tea as opposed to boiled beef, potatoes and coffee. They got paid less, often way less, most all the time and were essentially told: 'tough - whatta you gohn do bout it?'

Don't believe they had hundreds of years of institutionalized slavery here though. And blacks didn't move here by the droves cuz it was less hospitable than the south.

Botnst · #86 06-04-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I dunno, it IS a bit low to always try to beat up on the south for that stuff, the whole south I mean, cuz even when it was a large crowd doing it, they still amounted to (I'm guessing) way less than 1% of the population of that particular county.

I just don't get this crying of RACIST! when most all of us still have it within us. It's only natural, just a form of tribalism all in all, and when push comes to shove, you're much more likely to stick with your tribe than to try to reach out to strangers.

Makes sense.

aklim · #87 06-04-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

And the treatment of Chinese railroad workers in Cal. was truly shabby. Word I've read is that they outperformed Euros on average in part, it's speculated, because their diet was superior: greens, rice, fish, tea as opposed to boiled beef, potatoes and coffee. They got paid less, often way less, most all the time and were essentially told: 'tough - whatta you gohn do bout it?'

I don't think it is so much the diet as the last part. They decided that this crummy life wasn't going to be for their kids and set out to work harder and make something of themselves. Japs were the same way after WWII. Their products were crummy so they worked harder to improve them.

jlomon · #88 06-04-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

"GOD and reverend" are one in the same....

Let me explain...........

Psa 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people he hath commanded his covenant forever holy, and reverend is his name.

See...reverend appearers only one time in the Holy Bible... "Reverend" is a title/name reserved for God only!!

That said I have no reverence for a dude that uses reverend in in his name/title too elevate his stastice....

Organized religion is plagued with many heresies today.......

As usual Matt, you have completely ignored the question and have substituted some religious dogma as an answer. This is semantics and nothing more. I'll rephrase the questions and let's see how you deal with it.

Who does a Christian owe their faith to, God or the person who preaches the sermon in their place of worship, when that Christian legitimately believes that the preacher is no longer preaching God's message?

How do you reconcile the Christian belief system with the things that both Wright and the Catholic guy (who's name is escaping me right now) both said and did?

dynalow · #89 06-04-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

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Ask yourself this.
Seeing that gas will eventually reach $6.00 a gallon and above despite
almost anything we can do.

What administrations have been in office during the largest increases
in gas prices ??

The week that president Bush took office the price of gas jumped 70%
from $1.47 to $2.50 per gallon.

Since he has been in office the cost of a barrel of oil has gone from
$30.63 to over $130.63

Similar increases can be seen during most of the recent Republican run administrations.

Current Gas Prices and Price History

RichC
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Your own graph would seem to disprove this claim.

"recent Republican run Administrations" would include Reagan and GHW Bush, no? The Graph indicates (in constant dollars) a decline in the price of a gallon of gas thru the 80's, unless I am reading it wrong. Also when BushI invades Kuwait the price of gas appears to be constant.
You can't seriously claim that the rise in gas price is the direct result of a republican president. No other factors influence the price of a barrel of oil?

Palangi · #90 06-04-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Suh, it pains me to report that the racist comments of this so called Reverend from the good state of Illinois have wounded me deeply suh. While it may be true that at times in the distant past, the Negro was treated a bit rudely heah and theah in ow-uh state, through the mighty application of vigorous soul searching and prayer, we heah in ow-uh region have completely purged ow-uh selves of any and all racist tendencies, suh.

And through the vicissitudes of time and fate, you see how we have been repaid ow-uh kindness and mercy. After having given the Negro his freedom and his 40 acres and a mule, we’ve had nary a moments rest, what with them demanding to sit on the main floor of ow-uh theatuhs and such.

And now to heah this vile spew of lying, hateful, racist speech from a man who purports to be of the cloth, accusing ow-uh gubmint of being capable of wishing the Negro ill, well suh, I can tell you, it makes me wonder if we wuh indeed correct to give the Negro his freedom, as we can see what he has done with it.

Very impressive minstrel doggerel, however, it still evades the question.

Is it or is it not acceptable for a presidential candidate to associate himself with a racist organization, such as the infamous Trinity Church, as led by the infamous racist bigot, Jeremiah Wright?