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Old 12-08-2010, 07:14 PM
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Eventually pay will go up as these developing countries devoted to manufacturing have increased standards of living. Its already happening in China.

If American workers didn't choose to become less productive and ridiculously expensive via union collective bargaining alot of folks would still have their jobs. One of the larger aircraft manufacturing union in Wichita rejected a contract with Beechcraft calling for a 10% pay cut, and for them to chip in a but more with healthcare. For relatively low skill work they go from making $27 an hour to $24. Basically 55k a year vs 50k. Considering their sales are down 23% and they're operating at a huge loss its not a massive concession. Other states have stepped up offering huge incentives for these 1000s of jobs to move, but they still voted no. 800 of those jobs are going to Mexico now, with the rest uncertain; if they said yes they would have had a contract for the next 7 years. Estimates are if all these jobs are transfered the local economy would take a 5% + dip.
They'll be on unemployment for next year, followed by an exciting career at Walmart.

I see it happen all the time, heck the union guys at Sikorsky are in the process of doing it. They all think they have the world by the balls and are needed. When the gravy train stops they realize that they have no marketable skills and are stuck making $8 an hour at some BS job until they are to old to work.

I have seen it time and again.

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Old 12-09-2010, 06:16 PM
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Eventually pay will go up as these developing countries devoted to manufacturing have increased standards of living. Its already happening in China.

If American workers didn't choose to become less productive and ridiculously expensive via union collective bargaining alot of folks would still have their jobs. One of the larger aircraft manufacturing union in Wichita rejected a contract with Beechcraft calling for a 10% pay cut, and for them to chip in a but more with healthcare. For relatively low skill work they go from making $27 an hour to $24. Basically 55k a year vs 50k. Considering their sales are down 23% and they're operating at a huge loss its not a massive concession. Other states have stepped up offering huge incentives for these 1000s of jobs to move, but they still voted no. 800 of those jobs are going to Mexico now, with the rest uncertain; if they said yes they would have had a contract for the next 7 years. Estimates are if all these jobs are transfered the local economy would take a 5% + dip.
They'll be on unemployment for next year, followed by an exciting career at Walmart.
If they failed a wallmart they could take up that "brain taxing" career of selling used cars while having their lifes subsidized by DADDY
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:44 PM
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If they failed a wallmart they could take up that "brain taxing" career of selling used cars while having their lifes subsidized by DADDY
ouch!
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:16 AM
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Singapore doesnt manufacture clothing....Indonesia_ Cambodia, most likely...Singapore , no...very high tech here. In fact.....
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:12 AM
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:51 AM
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If they failed a wallmart they could take up that "brain taxing" career of selling used cars while having their lifes subsidized by DADDY
Local2ED, you are my hero!
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:35 AM
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Singapore doesnt manufacture clothing....Indonesia_ Cambodia, most likely...Singapore , no...very high tech here. In fact.....
Singapore has one of the largest & most up to date oil refineries in the region. They bring the crude in & then ship fuel etc out. A significant proportion of the petrol & diesel used in Australia comes out of Singapore.

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