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View Poll Results: Which car to autocross?
R350 6 20.00%
380SEC 8 26.67%
300TD 13 43.33%
set fire to all your cars and start over with a toyota 3 10.00%
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:05 PM
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Thumbs down Need a substitute car for autoX this Sunday!

Ok I'm going to let you all decide which car I take to autocross this weekend since both my regular car and the backup car eliminated themselves from going this week.

The regular car, my 300D, started knocking and I don't have the time or the parts to figure out whats causing it before sunday.

The backup car, my 500SEC performed great today untill the ride home when something inside the transmission decided to not shift out of second gear anymore.

So I'm down to a few choices:

My 2006 R350, my 1983 380SEC, or my 1984 300TD.

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Old 06-20-2008, 10:38 PM
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Oh the TD of course.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:47 PM
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I vote the TD also. That WOULD be a change of pace!
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:05 PM
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I bet the R350 will outhandle them
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:35 PM
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I said the 380SEC because I don't know ***** about it and have no ability to control posting opinions on subject with which I am completely ignorant.

So follow my advice!

B

PS I think T Walgamuth probably has the most experienced opinion with autocross on OD. Therefore, avoid his opinion at all costs.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:33 AM
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While starting over with a Toyota would probably make you more competitive, I went with the SEC. As much as I would've liked to take my 300TD to autox, I figured I'd probably have more fun running the course than driving it.
It's a total guess, but I'd bet the R350 is a pig. Heavy cars are no fun to try and get around the tighter corners. I can't imagine how crappy a decreasing radius turn would be.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:49 AM
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Holy crap R350 weighs damn near 5000 pounds.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:10 AM
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Option 4!
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:22 AM
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R350, you never drive that anymore.....
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:27 AM
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sec, man.

No contest.

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Old 06-21-2008, 09:23 AM
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Actually there was a guy with an R500 that came out last year a few times, he had my 300D by almost a full second (when I had street tires still )

I need to stick with a diesel if I want to stay on top in my class.
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
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1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:28 AM
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Whats a thread without pictures?
Here's each of the cars listed:

R350:


380SEC:


300TD:
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1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
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1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:36 AM
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If you are running scca all of them will be h stock. Of them I would choose the sec for the lower center of gravity and the special feature on the shifter that allows you to hold it in first and second (using B iirc) and the tranny downshifts itself as soon as it can without exceeding redline on the engine. It will help slow the car down without using brakes.

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Old 06-21-2008, 09:54 AM
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scca rules, but they split the MB's into further groups.
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:08 AM
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Just for grins take the 300TD. Can you put the wheels from the 300D on it?

What wheels are on it now, they look really good on that car! -- too bad I am stuck up in NY now I was looking forward to see you run the course.

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