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Old 06-27-2008, 11:54 AM
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Less of those on the road is fine by me. I find them annoying and aggravating, especially in large herds.

I'm glad I'm not an RV salesman. For that matter, I'm glad I'm not a yacht salesman either.
Also be glad you are not in the hospitality business or would be in any way affected by it directly or indirectly. The former is probably true and the latter is probably false if you look hard enough.

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Old 06-27-2008, 12:11 PM
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Well, I am indirectly involved with the hospitality business. A large per centage of my customers are hotels as well as some larger restaurants. Fuel prices don't seem to have slowed the construction of new hotels significantly so far.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:33 PM
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Well, I am indirectly involved with the hospitality business. A large per centage of my customers are hotels as well as some larger restaurants. Fuel prices don't seem to have slowed the construction of new hotels significantly so far.
Give it time. It probably will. We had a stock crash here and it took 6 months before Asia felt it. Contracts are probably already drawn up but will new ones be there if this crunch still exists by year end?
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:47 PM
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Teardrop, casita, trillium are all worth considering. I was looking at Vixens today. I wonder if the Vixen with diesel will pull my ut trailer with the autocross benz on board?

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Old 06-27-2008, 04:25 PM
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I've always had a fondness for the 70's box Winnebagos, probably because I had a toy one as a little kid. A restored one might not be too shabby. Then we'd really be Cousin Eddy-esque (even though Eddy's wasn't a Winnie).
If you're looking for a 70's motorhome, go for a Travco, not a Winnebago. Same chassis (Dodge with either 313, 413 or 440) but the Travco has a far superior construction since it has a solid fiberglass body on a steel frame. Far safer and virtually impervious to leaks. I sold my 1972 22' Travco with 48k miles about 2 years ago.
A Cummins 5.9 is a pretty easy replacement for the original gas V-8's.
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Teardrop, casita, trillium are all worth considering. I was looking at Vixens today. I wonder if the Vixen with diesel will pull my ut trailer with the autocross benz on board?

Tom W
Talked to a Vixen owner with the BMW diesel. He claimed 30 mpg. Don't know about its towing power. There's an RV dealer in the midwest (Iowa I think) who specializes in Vixens.
I think the Sprinter conversions are going to go up in value. Talked to a guy who had one last year (Winnebago I think.). He was very happy and was towing a pretty large boat. Can't recall his mpg but the vans get around 22.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:44 PM
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I love the vixen design but 30 mpg is pretty hard to imagine.

I checked and found a dealer in ca who specializes in vixens. He claims to have sold 134 of them. At least some are consignment.

The asking prices for them are pretty stiff. 15K and up. the parking in a garage feature is attractive.

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Here's a history:
http://www.vixenrv.org/vixen/vixen_chronology.html

It repeats the 30mpg claim.

I was thinking of Agency RV but it looks like it doesn't exist anymore.

I too was skeptical of the 30mpg. The owner was insistent it was correct. Lincoln Town Cars of the same era had the option of the same BMW diesel. I'd be curious as to the mpg in the Lincoln

edit--looks like the Lincoln/BMW diesel was rated at 27mpg highway from the factor with an automatic transmission.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:45 AM
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Get a diesel pusher. My uncle's old coach bus based diesel pusher was a beast and got like 8mpg which considering the size was pretty decent. Towing a car up the mountains wasn't a problem.

Those front engined gas RV's are dogs, they are always slowing everyone down on the highway doing 60 and working to make it up any kind of grade. The best ones are based on over the road bus chassis and will run 70-80 all day long. The truck tires can also better handle the weight.



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Old 06-28-2008, 11:10 AM
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3 years ago I traded my 1999 Intruder 36' Class-A for a Class-B 2006 Pleasure-Way Van motorhome built on the long and tall Sprinter chassis. I travel alone with my dog so the downsize was not too much of a problem. The class A got 7 - 7.5 mpg. The class B gets 22 - 23.5 mpg on diesel.

I LOVE my Sprinter! Good mileage, very tourqey and comfortable. Also, when I get where I'm going its easy to drive and park on city streets as opposed to towing a car on that damned dolly.

The latest models are selling for about $100K which is not much less than the larger ones sell for.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:26 PM
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Here you go Swamp ... big enough for your whole family.

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/rvs/704114326.html
Someone in my neighborhood has one of those- its ginormous! I also watched a segment of "How It's Made" featuring campers-pretty cool.
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I worked on the side for a small comapny that owned a Vixen. BMW TD6 with stick shift. Seems to me it got in the middle 20's on the road. Whole thing tipped the scales at around 5400 lbs. Drove ok, handled ok. Shifting was a PAIN. Had a solid shift rod in a tube assembly that was not straight. Kinda had an "S" bend in it. Just about took two hands to move stick fore/aft. Taking it any place was always an adventure. Oh, and when you raised the "tilt-up" top, rain could come in.
I have a 2000 Diesel excursion and pull a 25' Camper. Hoping to get a slightly bigger (and newer) one. Getting around 10mpg towing. Don't travel to far, but the economics are still there. I can load a bunch of us in the big red X and go to stay somewhere (campground/park). Rent there is a lot cheaper than hotel rooms and we cook our own food if we want rather than paying to feed a whole family each and every meal. Take all the stuff we want with us. Don't have to rent a van when we get there. And we don't have to go thru the airport barefoot in our skivies with all our stuff in clear plastic bags worrying that if we don't kiss the @ss of the TSA knuckle-dragger, we'll get a $1500 fine or locked up because he didn't like us. I hope to never set foot on another airplane (and if I die and you need to ship my carcus, send me by train!).
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:42 PM
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A high percentage of the RV's I saw on the road yesterday were older class C's, the ones that were paid off long ago or were bought for a song. It looks like people can't afford both the payments and the fuel for the new ones. Motorhomes are nice for driving with a large group of people, but the Casita's or Trillium's are nice too.
I've driven I=80 a lot this time of year and yesterday was astonishing. I'd guess about 90% of the RV's have disappeared. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because I fall into that group. We're driving the TD instead of the Wanderlodge.
I have a feeling that a lot of them are going to be retired in trailer parks, nation wide, as low rent housing.

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