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Idolotor 07-02-2008 01:51 PM

Argue with a cop... get tasered. NO JOKE!
 
Cops now days will taser you for ANY reason they deem necessary!

Even arguing with them... a$$ holes! :mad:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_columns/tase_early_tase_often_column

Hatterasguy 07-02-2008 01:55 PM

I'm not a huge cop fan, but I have never had a problem with one.

Arguing with a cop about any sort of ticket is pointless. So I'm just polite, if I was speeding I have found admiting that I was works wonders. If you don't think the ticket is fair talk to the judge.

Idolotor 07-02-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1899397)
I'm not a huge cop fan, but I have never had a problem with one.

Arguing with a cop about any sort of ticket is pointless. So I'm just polite, if I was speeding I have found admiting that I was works wonders. If you don't think the ticket is fair talk to the judge.

Cops were wrong here, and are pulling this crap everyday, all around the country! > QUOTE:

In the videos described here, the drivers weren’t resisting—at worst, they were less than instant in their compliance. That calls for Level Four force? Following the Austin incident, the department’s Internal Affairs office saw no problem, but then acting Chief Cathy Ellison ordered Officer O’Connor suspended for three days.

Botnst 07-02-2008 02:53 PM

Don't tase me, dude!

aklim 07-02-2008 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idolotor (Post 1899391)
Cops now days will taser you for ANY reason they deem necessary!

Even arguing with them... a$$ holes! :mad:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_columns/tase_early_tase_often_column

Viagra, Levitra is very expensive and not covered by many insurances. Cialis is cheaper because "She, give you everything you want. Boom Boom long time.". Either way, you are paying for it out of pocket.

Tasering you, OTOH, does the same thing and it is free for them so they can get hard for the wives at home.

blkntancj 07-02-2008 04:02 PM

You're an idiot. Just because one Officer was out of line that makes all of us Taser happy *******s? I resent your insinuation that all cops are bad simply because of the actions of a VERY SMALL percentage.

aklim 07-02-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkntancj (Post 1899559)
You're an idiot. Just because one Officer was out of line that makes all of us Taser happy *******s? I resent your insinuation that all cops are bad simply because of the actions of a VERY SMALL percentage.

And you can't count and/or read. There were 2 officers mentioned. I wouldn't call you all Taser happy *******s. Not all of you have tasers. The last part, well, so far, lets say that most of the officers I have met, most, not all, have that part there. It's not the taser or the gun. It's the attitude that they have a badge and a gun and can do what they want.

Not to say cops are useless. They can fill out reports, when they feel like it so we can claim insurance. See, I said something nice about cops by highlighting their usefulness. Other than that, I don't need them or want them. When they can act professional WITHOUT THE ATTITUDE, we can talk.

firemediceric 07-02-2008 04:43 PM

I see it all the time. One of the best ones I personally witnessed was a guy sitting on a couch wearing just some shorts with no weapons or any other objects within reach. The guy did not stand up when the officer told him to. The guy on the couch simply pointed his finger at the officer and BAM!!! he was instantly tased.

aklim 07-02-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemediceric (Post 1899599)
I see it all the time. One of the best ones I personally witnessed was a guy sitting on a couch wearing just some shorts with no weapons or any other objects within reach. The guy did not stand up when the officer told him to. The guy on the couch simply pointed his finger at the officer and BAM!!! he was instantly tased.

And BAM!!! Cop's wife got laid that night.

AustinsCE 07-02-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1899601)
And BAM!!! Cop's wife got laid that night.

Or beaten? :(

And it's all brainwashing. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle. That's why they take the cruisers and equipment home, if not outfitting all their personal cars with it as well.
Cop came to work, one of the first things he said was "on the outside I'm all business. But I'm laughing my behind off while I'm handcuffing people." Shortly before telling my coworkers and I about how the laws apply to us not them, because "they get paid to take risks".:mad:

aklim 07-02-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinsCE (Post 1899616)
Or beaten? :(

That might work to give them a woody. Like I said, it is cheaper than viagra or even Cialis.

Idolotor 07-02-2008 05:25 PM

My cousin is a cop in California. He said MOST of the married officers cheat on their wives and the rate of alcoholism for cops is about four times what it is for the general public. He also said that cops confiscate and pocket about half the dope they run across. I've seen this myself...

More dirty cops out there than good ones. :mad:

aklim 07-02-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idolotor (Post 1899656)
My cousin is a cop in California. He said MOST of the married officers cheat on their wives and the rate of alcoholism for cops is about four times what it is for the general public. He also said that cops confiscate and pocket about half the dope they run across. I've seen this myself...

More dirty cops out there than good ones. :mad:

Guess I should be friendly to cops so I can get some good dope.

davidmash 07-02-2008 05:44 PM

My next door was a cop but he was an alcoholic (I saw him drinking all the time) and he got busted for banging his girlfriend when he was supposed to be on duty (his wife was none too happy about that). He got canned and last I heard he is a cop/sheriff or something in OK or somewhere.

They need to start paying a bit better and screening a whole lot better.

aklim 07-02-2008 05:59 PM

Screening won't help with them getting corrupted by the power from the badge and gun

Idolotor 07-02-2008 06:03 PM

Had a cop detain me and my wife for illegal U turn. He gave me a "field sobriety test" which he said I failed. Made us wait two hours for his supervisor to bring a breathalyzer after I told him I had nothing to drink. After another 45 minutes it came. I blew a 0.000 !!! The cop refused to apologise for wasting our time and being an a$$ hole. Instead of saying "I'm sorry sir. My mistake. Since I have detained you already, I will let you off with a warning on the U turn."

No - since he was an a$$ hole, no apology, gave me a ticket. :mad:

aklim 07-02-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idolotor (Post 1899726)
Had a cop detain me and my wife for illegal U turn. He gave me a "field sobriety test" which he said I failed. Made us wait two hours for his supervisor to bring a breathalyzer after I told him I had nothing to drink. After another 45 minutes it came. I blew a 0.000 !!! The cop refused to apologise for wasting our time and being an a$$ hole. Instead of saying "I'm sorry sir. My mistake. Since I have detained you already, I will let you off with a warning on the U turn."

No - since he was an a$$ hole, no apology, gave me a ticket. :mad:

He has got to meet his quota and he is killing patrol time with you. You expected more?

Idolotor 07-02-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1899736)
He has got to meet his quota and he is killing patrol time with you. You expected more?

Drunken, wife beating, on-the-take, drug addicted, wife cheating, a$$ holes!!! :mad:

Chris Bell 07-02-2008 06:40 PM

I just don't have a great deal of respect for cops these days, It seems that since 9/11 they have turned into a bunch of jackbooted thugs.

chilcutt 07-02-2008 06:42 PM

The Police
 
My favorite encounter with a cop was 2yr ago, knock on my door,I answer, its the police, they want to question me about some gun books that I had sent to me in the mail. I told him that I was not going to answer any questions about my private mail, and if I was going to talk about my mail ,it would not be to him. Of course he had to ask me why (trying to find a reason to hassle me) so I told him "because I dont like cops,they make me feel uncomfortable, with that gun and the leather holster creaking and all. I tell you what ,you give me your back-up peice,and then me and you can stand here holding our guns, and then we can talk."He left,and I made my point. So aklim, do you think he went home and did not get to be serviced by the little lady?

Hatterasguy 07-02-2008 07:02 PM

This is why I get annoyed when they want to increase the police force size in my city. I already can't drive a mile without pasing 2-3, WTF do we need another for?:rolleyes:

Once I get out of school I'm getting into local politics and will vote against everything the police force wants. I want to get on some budget commitee!

cscmc1 07-02-2008 07:17 PM

Wow -- you guys have had some bad luck. I have never had to deal with an ********* cop; every last one of them has been professional and respectful (and I have been very respectful to them). Well, the University cop who wouldn't give me a parking pass my freshman year was a bit of a jerk, but that was a long time ago... :grin:

Botnst 07-02-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idolotor (Post 1899726)
Had a cop detain me and my wife for illegal U turn. He gave me a "field sobriety test" which he said I failed. Made us wait two hours for his supervisor to bring a breathalyzer after I told him I had nothing to drink. After another 45 minutes it came. I blew a 0.000 !!! The cop refused to apologise for wasting our time and being an a$$ hole. Instead of saying "I'm sorry sir. My mistake. Since I have detained you already, I will let you off with a warning on the U turn."

No - since he was an a$$ hole, no apology, gave me a ticket. :mad:

Shouldda tazed your sorry azz! Dang u-turnerite!

chilcutt 07-02-2008 07:21 PM

The Police
 
I wonder how much taxpayer money was spent to have a cop come and ask me about my gun books? Lets see. wear & tear on the vehickle, feul, cops pay (maybe overtime) fuel,...makes you wonder.

Brian Carlton 07-02-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscmc1 (Post 1899802)
Wow -- you guys have had some bad luck. I have never had to deal with an ********* cop; every last one of them has been professional and respectful (and I have been very respectful to them). Well, the University cop who wouldn't give me a parking pass my freshman year was a bit of a jerk, but that was a long time ago... :grin:

I agree. I also have never had a bad interaction with any of them. In fact, on two separate occasions in OK, I was given a warning for the speed. In both cases, I immediately got out of my vehicle and approached the police car. In both cases, the officer motioned for me to get into the police car in the front passenger seat. I certainly found this to be rather odd.........didn't think they'd take such a risk.

And, what's the odds of letting a guy from NY off without a ticket??

Fulcrum525 07-02-2008 07:41 PM

Pull over criminals, not people who have front mounted Euro-plates



:iconpi_ar

Hatterasguy 07-02-2008 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulcrum525 (Post 1899827)
Pull over criminals, not people who have front mounted Euro-plates

Got nailed?

Botnst 07-02-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 1899810)
I wonder how much taxpayer money was spent to have a cop come and ask me about my gun books? Lets see. wear & tear on the vehickle, feul, cops pay (maybe overtime) fuel,...makes you wonder.

What gets me about that is how did he know? Was he local, state, or fed? Sounds like the US Mail was violated or the bookseller has a strange relationship with some spook outfit.

Wonder what would happen if you ordered, "The Anarchist's Cookbook"? I owned a copy back in the 1970's. Wonder if I'm on a list.

B

Ara T. 07-02-2008 10:32 PM

From that story, the guy didnt argue at all..

chilcutt 07-02-2008 10:47 PM

How did he know
 
That is the part that spooked ME. Upon reflection at that time I made a mental inventory of any posssible movements that I had made in 1 yr prior to that guy coming to my house. I had checked out numerous books from the public library on subjects spanning -Hitler-Inside the CIA-Your government at work-How to disapear-etc... Also, during that time, an associate of mine (got my Benz from him) included me to his mailing list. He writes forums, introduces propoganda, and is heavily involved in the N.R.A. That is all that I was involved in at that time. So why did the authoritys come to my house? Was it from the library, perhaps certain withdrawals get flagged, and sent over to the cheif at the cop shop? Perhaps my buddy was the focus of some FED investigation, and the Feds contacted the Chief? Weird. This incident really opened my eyes to how much our Government is in our business, in our cars, in our houses, in our mailboxes. What is next,when you go thru an intersection, they remotely x-ray your brain!

chilcutt 07-02-2008 10:49 PM

Mailbox
 
This was a local city cop.

Monomer 07-02-2008 11:12 PM

If i risked my life everyday, for a slim 30k/year job: I'd have an attitude also.

rwthomas1 07-02-2008 11:30 PM

The problem with cops is they are people. People that can get away with doing things they aren't supposed to, generally, do. I have met and hung out with plenty of cops and never once found one that was close to squeaky clean. Speeding, spouse abuse, drugs, dwi, etc. etc. They get away with plenty of it and are cut slack because the job is "tough". Hey, you knew that when you signed up! Very little respect for them these days. RT

aklim 07-02-2008 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 1899773)
So aklim, do you think he went home and did not get to be serviced by the little lady?

Maybe but she would have to spike his drink with Cialis.

aklim 07-02-2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monomer (Post 1900008)
If i risked my life everyday, for a slim 30k/year job: I'd have an attitude also.

Sorry. Find another job.

Fulcrum525 07-03-2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1899835)
Got nailed?


I got a "warning" last year by a local cop.....he was bored sitting on a side street too short to speed on, I happened to be driving by....


I've had this plate on for years, driven to every corner of CT, Manhattan, Boston, and everywhere in between. Go figure, the only cop who gives me trouble over it does it 2 miles from home.

Chris Bell 07-03-2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monomer (Post 1900008)
If i risked my life everyday, for a slim 30k/year job: I'd have an attitude also.

Lifes full of choices, they made theirs. If it turns out not so good for them, don't take it out on me.

Ara T. 07-03-2008 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monomer (Post 1900008)
If i risked my life everyday, for a slim 30k/year job: I'd have an attitude also.

Around here they start at 56K a year to 68K a year DOE.

AustinsCE 07-03-2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 1900099)
Around here they start at 56K a year to 68K a year DOE.

Exactly. Had one on the local newspaper forum bragging about living on the "teet" at 90K a year in retirement. I don't know when this apologize-for-the-Government mantra came about but it's getting to sound more and more like a cult. The right wing response to the environmentalist religion. Nope, they get no sympathy from me, the nation's number one cop killer is traffic!:confused::confused::confused:

This is the United States after all. A tax collector has to figure his life will always be in danger. That's the whole concept of a free nation, keep the Government in check. Hard to imagine people used to solve their own problems. And had the legal right to do so.

Idolotor 07-03-2008 12:39 PM

It's just a fact, if a cop is hungover, strungout on something, or didn't get laid that night, there's a real good chance that YOU might get tased by him if you don't comply fast enough with his demands.

Sound fair? He might not like the fact that you are driving a Mercedes Benz.

Cops are beyond the law in MOST cases... :mad:

OldPokey 07-03-2008 02:56 PM

The cops around here are all right for the most part. All the jerks work at the MVA!:mad:

TylerH860 07-03-2008 03:04 PM

My experiences have been nothing but good as well. I've been pulled over 3 times, got two warnings, and one ticket, 48 in a 40 zone was easy enough to contest.

I try and alleviate their apprehension as much as possible by turning on every single interior light possible.

aklim 07-03-2008 03:07 PM

I don't think it is the warnings or tickets that make it a decent cop or not. Was I pissed at the pigs stopping me although I got a ticket because there was no real reason but a concocted one? Yes. Did it make a difference whether I got a ticket or not? No. Just their behavior.

firemediceric 07-03-2008 05:17 PM

Another great first hand experience, if you care to read it. It's long:
We get called at 2 A.M. for the sound of a car crash. We arrive with PD to find a bumper laying in front of a power pole. PD followed the trail of transmission fluid to an Escalade parked in a drive way. Engine is still very warm, heavy front end damage and a starred windshield with blood on the glass and seat.

Cops start ringing the bell and beating on the door, but the occupants are ignoring them. That really pissed the cops off and made it into a matter of pride and ego. They can see the guy through a window cleaning his wound at the kitchen sink with his wife attending to him. The cops are making a lot of racket, but the occupants continue to ignore the cacaphoney (Sp.)

PD has already told me that they probably can't charge him with DUI because they can't for sure put him behind the wheel at the time of the accident unless he admits to it.

A supervisor shows up and they take the remote for the garage overhead door out of the wrecked Escalade. As the occupants hear the door going up they come through the door from their house and into the attached garage. The guy is yelling at the cops to get out, saying if they don't have a warrant, they need to leave.

About 6 cops have their tasers drawn and the red dots are dancing all over his torso. As he continues to tell the cops to get out, they nail him. He didn't go down easy. It was impressive to see his resistance and resilance. They handcuff him for resisting and toss him on the stretcher.

The wife is asking what gives the cops the right to come into the house? You'll love this catch all answer : "Extigent circumstances." They said they had to assure that he was not injured or a danger to himself. All the while I'm telling anyone that will listen that the guys blood sugar is fine and he's alert and oriented x 4, so no need to detain him against his will on the premise of a medical emergency.

dkveuro 07-04-2008 02:27 AM

http://www.koco.com/news/14065785/detail.html

.....and still in Noble.....

http://newsok.com/article/keyword/3122684/

and then there's......


http://www.badcopnews.com/

Why stop here ?

http://locokazoo.com/2008/02/16/utah-police-want-a-law-to-hide-cop-crime/


And, finally ......

http://www.policecrimes.com/

.

Hatterasguy 07-04-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monomer (Post 1900008)
If i risked my life everyday, for a slim 30k/year job: I'd have an attitude also.

Around here they start at $50k, and $80k-$100k is not unheard of for seasoned officers with lots of overtime. I remember reading about one that made like $125k in a year.

Hatterasguy 07-04-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemediceric (Post 1900689)
Another great first hand experience, if you care to read it. It's long:
We get called at 2 A.M. for the sound of a car crash. We arrive with PD to find a bumper laying in front of a power pole. PD followed the trail of transmission fluid to an Escalade parked in a drive way. Engine is still very warm, heavy front end damage and a starred windshield with blood on the glass and seat.

Cops start ringing the bell and beating on the door, but the occupants are ignoring them. That really pissed the cops off and made it into a matter of pride and ego. They can see the guy through a window cleaning his wound at the kitchen sink with his wife attending to him. The cops are making a lot of racket, but the occupants continue to ignore the cacaphoney (Sp.)

PD has already told me that they probably can't charge him with DUI because they can't for sure put him behind the wheel at the time of the accident unless he admits to it.

A supervisor shows up and they take the remote for the garage overhead door out of the wrecked Escalade. As the occupants hear the door going up they come through the door from their house and into the attached garage. The guy is yelling at the cops to get out, saying if they don't have a warrant, they need to leave.

About 6 cops have their tasers drawn and the red dots are dancing all over his torso. As he continues to tell the cops to get out, they nail him. He didn't go down easy. It was impressive to see his resistance and resilance. They handcuff him for resisting and toss him on the stretcher.

The wife is asking what gives the cops the right to come into the house? You'll love this catch all answer : "Extigent circumstances." They said they had to assure that he was not injured or a danger to himself. All the while I'm telling anyone that will listen that the guys blood sugar is fine and he's alert and oriented x 4, so no need to detain him against his will on the premise of a medical emergency.


Oh I would be on the phone to my attorney the next day.:mad:

chilcutt 07-04-2008 10:36 AM

www.policecrimes video
 
After seeing the video on handcuff boy, (what a sissy),I recalled a simular event in my familys history. Back in 98, my cousin "Big Ray"(6-5-265lb) was pulled over by the sherriff here in Detroit. At some point in the traffic stop the officer involved felt uncomfortable and called for backup, so now there were 3 officers on the scene to write a ticket. At another point in this event, Ray felt that the cops were provokeing him and being the German he was prceeded to fight with the cops. They finally got him subdued after more backup arrived, but 2 cops were permately injured and had to retire. When Ray finally was released from the jailhouse, the cops buddys staked Ray out, pulled him over again, and shot him to death. The internal investigation that followed summed up "justifieable homicide" they deemed Ray "dangerous". I think the cops MADE Ray dangerous by messing with him in the first place. Life goes on,but in the end ALL of us will have to answer to God.

mwood 07-04-2008 10:59 AM

I learned a long time ago to treat the police with respect, cooperate and get the encounter over as quickly as possible and things go smoothly. When I was 18 I was arrested for drunk in public and made a total ass of my self; I was very beligerent (sp?) and combative, but even as much of an a-hole as I was they never abused me. I probably deserved to be smacked around some but all they did was throw me in a cell and leave me alone. Lesson learned.

Idolotor 07-04-2008 01:44 PM

When I was in college, my friend and I were getting ready to go into a bar and he had a line of coke on the dash board he was going to do. Just as he was going to do it, tap, tap, tap - on his drivers side car window! Yep! A cop, pointing at the line of coke!!! My friend roles the car window down and the cop asks if there is any more coke in the car. My friend pulls out a two gram vile. The cop takes it. Tells my friend to wipe his dash off and that both of us should LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. We did... Yes... cops do coke! My friend got off lucky!:eek:


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