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In th ecase of protecting people, I assert that as the sole reason for toppling the Taliban. Had the Taliban NOT protected Osama Bin Laden and his extensive network fo training camps then the Taliban would still be in power. Completely unrelated is the problem of Saddam Hussein's constant and repeated and oft-acted-on ambition to control Middle East oil. B |
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I don't care. We throw enough or our treasure at this hopeless charity countries, look at Haiti. Let the EU deal with this if they care enough, if not such is life.
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Do we need ivory for much at this point? If not, why should we care?
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When it was Rhodesia all was well what happened?
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Chavez is in line before Mugabe.........
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=62926§ionid=351020704 The US accuses the government of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of sheltering and financing the members of Lebanese Hezbollah movement.
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The British left, and when they did they pulled out in a hurry and took most of the educated people with them. When a country is suddenly out of a ruling class AND a proffesional class, it tends to go south rather quickly. It's happened lots of places.
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1. Its the Brits fault so if anyone cares enough to try to fix them, they should. 2. To bad the British Empire fell apart, it kept a lot of crappy areas of the world inline, and under their thumb.
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Yes, colonialism does some awful things. In comparison to many colonies of many countries, our country did pretty well under British rule.
British rule also gave it's colonies some fundamentals of law that, properly nurtured, ensure a just and fair government and society is possible. In some countries the English language became the common language among disparate ethnic and social groups. It's a silly language, but it gave people a neutral means of communication that they still use and abuse. If we compare the countries now in existence which are former British colonies with other former colonies of other countries, we would have to say that derivation from Britain was a hell of an advantage. B |
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Yep, and a fine mess they left India with.
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Sorry for you that your country was not left with 100% good. Still, I'd say it wasn't that bad when you see what it started out with when the British first arrived. Overall, looking at what it is today, I'd have to say that the benefits outweighed the negatives.
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