Yes, the public education system is failing its entrusted souls quite a bit.

Teachers are usually not to blame for it. I was married to a high school teacher. I know what she had to put up with and I regard her with utmost respect because of it. (Even if that would be the only regard ...)

I think the entertainment sector of the mass media industry is mostly responsible for the failures of many young individuals ... and ofcourse a bunch of bureaucrats who let it happen, because the are quoting it as a part of the "Free World".

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No, F is below the lowest level which would be D-.

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How about the parents?

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Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Yep. They're #1 through #20.

It can be tough to be a parent. Some fail. some succeed and many are doing alright.

For the most part they are included in the process of being mislead by standartizations drawn up and to be followed.

Where would you draw the line in a summarized, collective assessment to designate the quality of a parent.

It's not really possible to put a conclusive blame on parents in general.
Yes, it is possible for others to look at it and say: "Yeah, just do this and that .. that's how you need to do it ....etc".

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just to chime in here, yes, while some say blaming the parents may not be primarily associated with a child's failure in school, a child's success in school is driven primarily by a parent's involvement in his/her studies.

anecdotally, i have several friends who are educators, most notably a close family friend who had the fortune/misfortune of teaching HS in the los angeles unified school district in the hood and who later took those experiences and obtained her masters in education at harvard. even those with poor socioeconomic backgrounds succeeded if the parents were actively involved in their education. and that was measured quite easily by how frequently the parents attended and/or called regarding a student's grades or classroom behavior. also, cultural expectations have a lot to do with it, she said. some cultures emphasize hard work over academic achievement. others try to keep those down who succeed (you're an uncle tom if you succeed...youre being "too white"). but again, if the parents show a modicum of interest, the kids are almost always successful.

True. I read a book a while ago by an elementary school teacher named Rafe Esquith (sorry, I've forgotten the title), about his experiences teaching in a low income school. He pushes his students hard, gets the parents very involved in their childrens' education, and as a result, achievement in his class is very high.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.

Yes.

- Peter.

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1984 123 200
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1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S