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JenTay 09-05-2008 11:23 PM

EPA and Lawn Mowers
 
Lawn mowers will be required to have catalytic converters starting in 2010 per the EPA. No joke.

I guess they realize that the Democrats are coming to power and want to get on their good side.

djugurba 09-05-2008 11:40 PM

Small engines like lawnmowers and leaf blowers pollute far more than cars.

When I lived in Georgia I worked with the Department of Natural Resources on a few projects. They did a presentation for our program during which this alarming stat was shared: The average lawnmower puts out the same amount of pollutants in one hour of mowing as the average car would put out driving from Atlanta to Dallas... and back.

I'm glad it's finally on the radar.

It's sad that it's a political issue.

Brian Carlton 09-05-2008 11:40 PM

Great.........here comes the $1K basic lawn mower.............

TheDon 09-05-2008 11:51 PM

Time to buy an electric lawn mower

ForcedInduction 09-06-2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Great.........here comes the $1K basic lawn mower.............
That needs a 15hp engine to mow the grass.

DeliveryValve 09-06-2008 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1957369)
That needs a 15hp engine to mow the grass.

And higher insurance premiums just in case you get mower jacked because you have valuable platinum in those cats!

123c 09-06-2008 12:21 AM

Or people can have smaller lawns, and won't need gas powered lawn mowers

pawoSD 09-06-2008 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 123c (Post 1957374)
Or people can have smaller lawns, and won't need gas powered lawn mowers

Exactly, grow some shrubs, bushes, flowers, etc....who needs acres of stupid grass.

If they make mowers stupid like that I'd just get an electric one and install a few outdoor outlets. Easy....and way cleaner/cheaper. Also, way quieter!

kmaysob 09-06-2008 01:06 AM

time to get a lawnboy dura force:D

i can see the future now, its gonna look just like demolition man

bgkast 09-06-2008 01:12 AM

I saw this roomba-esque robotic mower today. Very cool!

Emmerich 09-06-2008 02:06 AM

I'll call you on that. There is NO WAY a mower in one hour can equal a 1600 mile car trip. The mower would burn its tank, which is what, 1/4 gallon or 1/2 gallon? A car would burn about 4 tank fulls for the average car, give or take, about 80 gallons.

Do the math, that claim is way over the top.


Quote:

Originally Posted by djugurba (Post 1957343)
Small engines like lawnmowers and leaf blowers pollute far more than cars.

When I lived in Georgia I worked with the Department of Natural Resources on a few projects. They did a presentation for our program during which this alarming stat was shared: The average lawnmower puts out the same amount of pollutants in one hour of mowing as the average car would put out driving from Atlanta to Dallas... and back.

I'm glad it's finally on the radar.

It's sad that it's a political issue.


Emmerich 09-06-2008 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1957351)
Time to buy an electric lawn mower

I had one - it sucked. No torque at all. Flinging the wire was not much fun but if you had no trees, its bearable. If the grass gets any length at all, it just bogs down big time. I don't know how a cordless electric could cut anything at all.

Emmerich 09-06-2008 02:14 AM

The 2010 date applies mainly to personal watercraft and secondly lawn mowers. The target date is to reduce emissions by 35% for both types of craft. The catalytic converter has not been mandated but it is only one suggestion for a solution. The assumed cost increase for a residential lawnmower is 18%.


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Originally Posted by JenTay (Post 1957334)
Lawn mowers will be required to have catalytic converters starting in 2010 per the EPA. No joke.

I guess they realize that the Democrats are coming to power and want to get on their good side.


Dee8go 09-06-2008 06:45 AM

I'm tired of mowing lawns. I think I'll just quit mowing mine altogether . . . . eff it!

Mistel 09-06-2008 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 1957422)
I'll call you on that. There is NO WAY a mower in one hour can equal a 1600 mile car trip. The mower would burn its tank, which is what, 1/4 gallon or 1/2 gallon? A car would burn about 4 tank fulls for the average car, give or take, about 80 gallons.

Do the math, that claim is way over the top.

I agree that it sounds a bit over the top, but you have to remember that an engine burns many, many times more air than fuel when it is used. That is why burning 1/4 gallon of gas can produce 20, 80, ? or whatever, pounds of pollution.

I think two stroke engines are pretty disgusting.

In another thread I posted pictures of my solar panels. In one picture you can see my solar hot water system on my roof. It is on the back of my house. I didn't mean to do it, but one corner sticks out a bit past the ridge of the roof and you can see it from the street. This breaks a local bylaw that says you are not supposed to be able to see these things from the street.

It makes me absolutely, burning mad, crazy that I am breaking the rules by showing about 1 square foot of solar collector to the street, when some landscaping company can go around the town with thier screaming two stroke leaf blowers all day long. It makes me CRAZY! My neigbour can spread poison on thier front lawn to control weeds and I have to watch like a hawk that my 3 year old does not run on the lawn for who knows how many days?

Am I nuts? I hope other people see the insanity?


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