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Old 09-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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EPA and Lawn Mowers

Lawn mowers will be required to have catalytic converters starting in 2010 per the EPA. No joke.

I guess they realize that the Democrats are coming to power and want to get on their good side.

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Old 09-06-2008, 12:40 AM
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Small engines like lawnmowers and leaf blowers pollute far more than cars.

When I lived in Georgia I worked with the Department of Natural Resources on a few projects. They did a presentation for our program during which this alarming stat was shared: The average lawnmower puts out the same amount of pollutants in one hour of mowing as the average car would put out driving from Atlanta to Dallas... and back.

I'm glad it's finally on the radar.

It's sad that it's a political issue.
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Great.........here comes the $1K basic lawn mower.............
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:51 AM
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Time to buy an electric lawn mower
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:19 AM
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Great.........here comes the $1K basic lawn mower.............
That needs a 15hp engine to mow the grass.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:21 AM
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That needs a 15hp engine to mow the grass.
And higher insurance premiums just in case you get mower jacked because you have valuable platinum in those cats!
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:21 AM
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Or people can have smaller lawns, and won't need gas powered lawn mowers
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:54 AM
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Or people can have smaller lawns, and won't need gas powered lawn mowers
Exactly, grow some shrubs, bushes, flowers, etc....who needs acres of stupid grass.

If they make mowers stupid like that I'd just get an electric one and install a few outdoor outlets. Easy....and way cleaner/cheaper. Also, way quieter!
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:06 AM
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time to get a lawnboy dura force

i can see the future now, its gonna look just like demolition man
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:12 AM
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I saw this roomba-esque robotic mower today. Very cool!
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:06 AM
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I'll call you on that. There is NO WAY a mower in one hour can equal a 1600 mile car trip. The mower would burn its tank, which is what, 1/4 gallon or 1/2 gallon? A car would burn about 4 tank fulls for the average car, give or take, about 80 gallons.

Do the math, that claim is way over the top.


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Small engines like lawnmowers and leaf blowers pollute far more than cars.

When I lived in Georgia I worked with the Department of Natural Resources on a few projects. They did a presentation for our program during which this alarming stat was shared: The average lawnmower puts out the same amount of pollutants in one hour of mowing as the average car would put out driving from Atlanta to Dallas... and back.

I'm glad it's finally on the radar.

It's sad that it's a political issue.
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:08 AM
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Time to buy an electric lawn mower
I had one - it sucked. No torque at all. Flinging the wire was not much fun but if you had no trees, its bearable. If the grass gets any length at all, it just bogs down big time. I don't know how a cordless electric could cut anything at all.
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:14 AM
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The 2010 date applies mainly to personal watercraft and secondly lawn mowers. The target date is to reduce emissions by 35% for both types of craft. The catalytic converter has not been mandated but it is only one suggestion for a solution. The assumed cost increase for a residential lawnmower is 18%.


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Lawn mowers will be required to have catalytic converters starting in 2010 per the EPA. No joke.

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:45 AM
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I'm tired of mowing lawns. I think I'll just quit mowing mine altogether . . . . eff it!
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:40 AM
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I'll call you on that. There is NO WAY a mower in one hour can equal a 1600 mile car trip. The mower would burn its tank, which is what, 1/4 gallon or 1/2 gallon? A car would burn about 4 tank fulls for the average car, give or take, about 80 gallons.

Do the math, that claim is way over the top.
I agree that it sounds a bit over the top, but you have to remember that an engine burns many, many times more air than fuel when it is used. That is why burning 1/4 gallon of gas can produce 20, 80, ? or whatever, pounds of pollution.

I think two stroke engines are pretty disgusting.

In another thread I posted pictures of my solar panels. In one picture you can see my solar hot water system on my roof. It is on the back of my house. I didn't mean to do it, but one corner sticks out a bit past the ridge of the roof and you can see it from the street. This breaks a local bylaw that says you are not supposed to be able to see these things from the street.

It makes me absolutely, burning mad, crazy that I am breaking the rules by showing about 1 square foot of solar collector to the street, when some landscaping company can go around the town with thier screaming two stroke leaf blowers all day long. It makes me CRAZY! My neigbour can spread poison on thier front lawn to control weeds and I have to watch like a hawk that my 3 year old does not run on the lawn for who knows how many days?

Am I nuts? I hope other people see the insanity?

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