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Old 09-06-2008, 12:54 AM
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Or people can have smaller lawns, and won't need gas powered lawn mowers
Exactly, grow some shrubs, bushes, flowers, etc....who needs acres of stupid grass.

If they make mowers stupid like that I'd just get an electric one and install a few outdoor outlets. Easy....and way cleaner/cheaper. Also, way quieter!
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:06 AM
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time to get a lawnboy dura force

i can see the future now, its gonna look just like demolition man
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:08 AM
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Time to buy an electric lawn mower
I had one - it sucked. No torque at all. Flinging the wire was not much fun but if you had no trees, its bearable. If the grass gets any length at all, it just bogs down big time. I don't know how a cordless electric could cut anything at all.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:12 AM
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I saw this roomba-esque robotic mower today. Very cool!
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:14 AM
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The 2010 date applies mainly to personal watercraft and secondly lawn mowers. The target date is to reduce emissions by 35% for both types of craft. The catalytic converter has not been mandated but it is only one suggestion for a solution. The assumed cost increase for a residential lawnmower is 18%.


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Lawn mowers will be required to have catalytic converters starting in 2010 per the EPA. No joke.

I guess they realize that the Democrats are coming to power and want to get on their good side.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:45 AM
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I'm tired of mowing lawns. I think I'll just quit mowing mine altogether . . . . eff it!
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:43 AM
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Ummm, I love the smell of those two stroke engines. It reminds me of going fishing with my uncle when I was a kid.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:06 AM
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Ummm, I love the smell of those two stroke engines. It reminds me of going fishing with my uncle when I was a kid.
It generally takes me 10 strokes,about 6 if I do it with vaseline.....
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:13 AM
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It generally takes me 10 strokes,about 6 if I do it with vaseline.....
You must be using something other than an Evinrude . . . .
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:26 AM
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You must be using something other than an Evinrude . . . .
On the fishing boat I was considered a Master................well,you know.
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Your uncle smelled like a two-stroke? Hmmm, sounds like a serious personal hygiene problem.

Woodstoves in Arizona municipal areas (yes, it does get "cold" here and we do use them) are required to be equipped with a catalytic device. Lawn mowers aren't that big of a deal (go figure) but those damned blowers and weed-eaters are everywhere.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:27 AM
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Maybe I'll just get some sheep to keep the grass down . . . .
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:44 AM
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Maybe I'll just get some sheep to keep the grass down . . . .
Good idea. Sheep, instead of using, produce gas.

Changes in law are great moneymaking opportunities. Not so exciting if you're on the other end of the stick. F**king donuts are $0.85 now because some city inspector has to inspect the ansul system so he can tell the operator that he'll come back to check it again to make sure he's moved the fryer to the proper position, and charge him $60, twice.

It's not taxation that's killing us, it's legislation, although I actually agree on the whole lawnmower thing. I use a reel mower myself on my lawn.
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I can hardly contain myself -- this is one of my favorite diatribes concerning American home landscaping -- it's freaking stupid!

It is based on observations by Frederick Law Olmstead (a 19th century landscape architect) of the English manor house and grounds of the nobility. He liked the open vistas and short grass. That landscape was produced by overgrazing cattle and sheep on the estate. He brought that design principle to the USA and sold it to Vanderbilts, etc, who suffered from too much money and not enough nobility of spirit -- they had aristocracy-envy. So they built manor houses of their own and became the royal Wannabees. The upper class in the USA were enviously minor wannabees of the royal Wannabees so they built mini-manors on mini-grounds, becoming mini-wannabees. The middleclass, not to be outdone, decided that they too should have closely cropped lawns and wannabee Georgian manors. So they built minimansions and put strips of carpet-like lawn around the minimansions.

Which brings us to today. We have built ourselves into high maintenance houses and grounds in which we are now the serfs of our own minimanors. We employ gawd-awful mechanical sheep to subdue the lawn that we fertilize in order to produce lush rapid growth of vegetation that is not consumed. Nor does it produce habitat for nature's creatures. It's a green desert.

Grow some trees. Get a ewe.

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Old 09-06-2008, 10:02 AM
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It's not taxation that's killing us, it's legislation, although I actually agree on the whole lawnmower thing. I use a reel mower myself on my lawn.
Yep.

At this point I'd support a 10 year ban on any new legislation but I'm betting the EPA ruling didn't require any new legislation.

The real power in Washington is held by the bureaucracy - they get to interpret the enabling legislation and issue the orders.

The real result of this nonsense is that people will just keep using their old lawnmowers for the next couple of decades.
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