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Will you vote even count this election ?


How safe is your vote ?
http://www.flurl.com/video/8347430_vote_rigging_elections.htm

Princeton hacks your vote
http://www.flurl.com/video/19577233_princeton_shows_that_diebold_voting_machines_can_be_rigged.htm

CNN
http://www.flurl.com/video/21350416_democracy_at_risk_e_voting_machine_maker_admits_miscounts.htm

Hacking Democracy ( movie )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4463776866669054201


RichC

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Have they ever counted? Nope. The Electoral College chooses the president, not the citizens.

The last two elections did not put the person elected by the people into office.

2000 went to the electoral-only winner but 2004 was the popular winner as well (51% to 48%).

The electoral vote is a round about popular vote, and the design of the electoral college was genius by the founders. As long as there is a huge population density difference across the country, the electoral college is needed. Without it, you would never see a candidate for national office in 80% of the states.

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Ahh...........we don't see a candidate in 80% of the states..........today.

Nobody is coming to NY, CA, NJ, TX, GA, OK, AL, MS, OR, WA, MD, and probably a slew of others.

There are less than 10 states that swing the election..........every time.

Yup - you live in Cal, you're blue, in the pres-dent uhl election anyway.

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Maybe you should click on the links I provided in the original post.

Then see if you can look at the evidence without a biased eye.

Then come back and tell me you are 100% positive about the 2004 elections.

This is not a RED or BLUE issue.

It effects us all.


RichC

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Because of the electoral system, if you live in a state that historically votes in favor of a particular party, your vote for a candidate of the opposing party doesn't stand a chance!

So voting for Obama in the state of Texas for instance, is futile.

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Is Obama really on the ballot in TX?

I thought there had been a number of Democrats from Texas elected president. I know`at least one was. Did they mke an exception for LBJ?

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I think we can safely say that there is no point for an Obama supporter to take the time to vote in Texas, just as there is no reason to me to go vote for McCain her in California. but its the principle of the thing. everyone should vote, you never know the out come.

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Back to the original topic...
I am very concerned about electronic, paperless machines. It reminds me of the old line attributed to "uncle Jo Stalin, I don't care who votes; I only care about who COUNTS the votes"--or something to that effect, albeit in Russian.
With no paper trail, I see the potential for great mischief.
If the people ever lose faith in the electoral process, then this experiment in a democratic republic is over.

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The last time I voted, the machines had a receipt-ribbon sort of thing that made a paper record of the votes. That way if there's some question, there's a physical document that can be inspected.

I'm in a swing state, so my vote MIGHT actually matter.

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MAryland is more democrat that even Mass. with the Kennedy clan running things up there.
Here we have fully electronic machince with no paper trail. I doubt that the people in power will allow that to change.

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