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Old 09-25-2008, 12:49 PM
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Let's go back in time with Fannie and Freddie

September 11, 2003
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
”There is a general recognition that the supervisory system for housing-related government-sponsored enterprises neither has the tools, nor the stature, to deal effectively with the current size, complexity and importance of these enterprises,” Treasury Secretary John W. Snow told the House Financial Services Committee in an appearance with Housing Secretary Mel Martinez, who also backed the plan.
Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing. ”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed. ”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
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Seeing Barney Frank on TV for the last few days as an expert over this current debacle has severely curbed my appetite.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:08 PM
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Franks, Dodd, Kerry, & Obama are the leading experts on those institutions if payment from those institutions is equivalent to knowledge of them.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:14 PM
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Damnit, Franks is on right now!! They've reached a tentative agreement on the bailout and he is patting himself on the back, rather than explaining the agreement.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:18 PM
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Fannie stock has been running hard :hugeassgrin: it looked unstoppable until 12:28est, the latest developments aren't doing much.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:59 PM
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franks, dodd, kerry, & obama are the leading experts on those institutions if payment from those institutions is equivalent to knowledge of them.
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I'm glad Frank stopped the creation of a new federal agency expanding executive branch powers. As I'm sure all small-government apologists are. Right?
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:00 PM
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I'm glad Frank stopped the creation of a new federal agency expanding executive branch powers. As I'm sure all small-government apologists are. Right?
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:49 PM
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I'm glad Frank stopped the creation of a new federal agency expanding executive branch powers. As I'm sure all small-government apologists are. Right?

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...”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee...
Man, that's brutal. I would love to hear Barney's explanation of that quote.

I became a big fan of Barney Frank's during the Clinton impeachment hearings. He repeatedly ran intellectual circles around the Republicans on that Committee.

Franks is no dummy, but he seems to have missed it on Fannie and Freddie. On the other hand, the whole debacle is so confusing, I don't know what to make of that quote.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:53 PM
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Man, that's brutal. I would love to hear Barney's explanation of that quote.

I became a big fan of Barney Frank's during the Clinton impeachment hearings. He repeatedly ran intellectual circles around the Republicans on that Committee.

Franks is no dummy, but he seems to have missed it on Fannie and Freddie. On the other hand, the whole debacle is so confusing, I don't know what to make of that quote.
To this day he is arguing to keep down payment assistance with FHA, which makes FHA a 100% loan in a loophole kind of way. Fundementally I'm against it because I believe that debtors have a lower chance of defaulting because of the out of pocket investment, the greedy part of me wants Barney to get his way because it enables more people to buy homes.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:24 PM
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To this day he is arguing to keep down payment assistance with FHA, which makes FHA a 100% loan in a loophole kind of way. Fundementally I'm against it because I believe that debtors have a lower chance of defaulting because of the out of pocket investment, the greedy part of me wants Barney to get his way because it enables more people to buy homes.
Yeah tell me about it. I know people who bought $330k houses at the hight for $3,500 out of their own pockets! Thats like a freaken security deposit on a rent! Thats why were in trouble, when those people get into trouble they throw the keys at the bank and say, "take it!".
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:22 PM
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I just heard somebody say yesterday that a lot of the people who had bbought houses in recent years had no business buying houses and were not "home owner material."

Clearly, not everybody should be a homeowner. If you have little or none of your own money invested in your home, you're really more like a renter. If thinkgs go South, you can just pack up and walk away, as many people are now doing.

I think the notion of OWNING your own home, of actually paying off your mortgage, is one that should be revived.
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Bump. Gotta love Barney Frank...
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