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C Sean Watts · #1 09-29-2008, 12:19 AM

Before anyone cries, "repost!" I did search for it...

http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953

Does this beg the question where else this boat, or its cargo, might go?

compress ignite · #2 09-29-2008, 01:27 AM

You know what those symptoms add up to?

C Sean Watts · #3 09-29-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by compress ignite

You know what those symptoms add up to?

including a lab technician over 13 years, NBC! Without the B.

IE: Nuclear, Biological, Chemical.

Many chemical agents produce the loss of hair and skin burns. Not that I know what the 'cargo' is but it likely could be either or both.

My friends, I realize this is open discussion and I will not start a hostile political thread trying to get you to vote one way or another. I'll just offer some food for thought - isolationism will only mean 'you'll never see it coming.' In exchange please do this,

Read this article, email it/forward it/tell everyone you know about it. BECAUSE if the population of a major Western city swamp hospitals with hair and teeth falling out and skin blistering and changing colors, Wall Street and the American economy will not mean a damn thing regardless of who wins in November.

Botnst · #4 09-29-2008, 08:38 AM

Nice find.

I hav ebeen searching for more info on this and it its very hard to find -- mostly on fringe-ish websites like "Daily Koss" or other black helicopter types. But no straight news story.

Could be 2 things.

1. There is nothing there.
2. It is suppressed.

If #1 it will die a much needed death. If #2 it is just a matter of time before the lid blows off.

Oh! Oh! I have a #3.

What if it is a story planted to influence Somali pirates? "Don't mess with cargo or you'll get mysteriously deathly ill."

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C Sean Watts · #5 09-29-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Nice find.

I hav ebeen searching for more info on this and it its very hard to find -- mostly on fringe-ish websites like "Daily Koss" or other black helicopter types. But no straight news story.

Could be 2 things.

1. There is nothing there.
2. It is suppressed.

If #1 it will die a much needed death. If #2 it is just a matter of time before the lid blows off.

Oh! Oh! I have a #3.

What if it is a story planted to influence Somali pirates? "Don't mess with cargo or you'll get mysteriously deathly ill."

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"Much needed death?"

It just broke less than 24 hours ago. If it's ANY of the above, the more it's covered the more we learn about it. I don't spend any time on, like you said, 'fringe' web sites. BUT I would never compare The Times of New Zealand to 'Daily Koss.' They are more the caliber of Financial Times, IE: more Edward R. Murrow and less Benny Hill. And as I began, this isn't political so we won't dismiss TNZ's credibility out of hand.

mwood · #6 09-29-2008, 11:31 AM

Whoa! Internet Explorer can't open the site. Cover up? Wait till the Jester gets ahold of this one!

Dee8go · #7 09-29-2008, 11:33 AM

I couldn't go to the site. What is the story about?

mwood · #8 09-29-2008, 11:41 AM

I opened it on Foxfire. It sounds strange, why would the pirates get sick but the crew isn't?

C Sean Watts · #9 09-29-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mwood

I opened it on Foxfire. It sounds strange, why would the pirates get sick but the crew isn't?

They know to STAY away from the containers of 'minerals' and 'chemicals.' Also, we don't know that the pirates didn't unlock and open something while underway.

Dee8go · #10 09-29-2008, 11:46 AM

Oh, isn't that a shame?! The pirates got sick from the toxic cargo, but the crew members didn't? I take it that was the gist of this story.

Karma in action.

BoomInTheTrunk · #11 09-29-2008, 11:47 AM

here is the story

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A tense standoff has developed in waters off Somalia over an Iranian merchant ship laden with a mysterious cargo that was hijacked by pirates.

Somali pirates suffered skin burns, lost hair and fell gravely ill “within days” of boarding the MV Iran Deyanat. Some of them died.
Andrew Mwangura, the director of the East African Seafarers’ Assistance Programme, told the Sunday Times: “We don’t know exactly how many, but the information that I am getting is that some of them had died. There is something very wrong about that ship.”
The vessel’s declared cargo consists of “minerals” and “industrial products”. But officials involved in negotiations over the ship are convinced that it was sailing for Eritrea to deliver small arms and chemical weapons to Somalia’s Islamist rebels.
The drama over the Iran Deyanat comes as speculation grew this week about whether the South African Navy would send a vessel to join the growing multinational force in the region.
A naval spokesman, Lieutenant-Commander Greyling van den Berg, told the Sunday Times that the navy had not been ordered by the government to become involved in “the Somali pirate issue”.
About 22000 ships a year pass through the Suez Canal and the Gulf of Aden, where regional instability and “no-questions-asked” ransom payments have led to a dramatic rise in attacks on vessels by heavily armed Somali raiders in speedboats.
The Iran Deyanat was sailing in those waters on August 21, past the Horn of Africa and about 80 nautical miles southeast of Yemen, when it was boarded by about 40 pirates armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades. They were alleged members of a crime syndicate said to be based at Eyl, a small fishing village in northern Somalia.

The ship is owned and operated by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines, or IRISL, a state-owned company run by the Iranian military.
According to the US Treasury Department, the IRISL regularly falsifies shipping documents to hide the identity of end users, uses generic terms to describe shipments and operates under various covers to circumvent United Nations sanctions.
The ship set sail from Nanjing, China, at the end of July. According to its manifest, it was heading for Rotterdam where it would unload 42500 tons of iron ore and “industrial products” purchased by a German client.

At Eyl, the ship was secured by more pirates — about 50 on board, and another 50 on shore.
But within days those who had boarded the ship developed mysterious health trouble.
This was also confirmed by Hassan Allore Osman, minister of minerals and oil in Puntland, an autonomous region of Somalia.
He headed a delegation sent to Eyl when news of the toxic cargo and illnesses surfaced.
He told one news publication, The Long War Journal, that during the six days he had negotiated with the pirates, a number of them had become sick and died.
“That ship is unusual,” he was quoted as saying. “It is not carrying a normal shipment.”

The pirates did reveal that they had tried to inspect the ship’s cargo containers when some of them fell sick — but the containers were locked.
Osman’s delegation spoke to the ship’s captain and its engineer by cellphone, demanding to know more about the cargo.
Initially it was claimed the cargo contained “crude oil”; later it was said to be “minerals”.
And Mwangura has added: “Our sources say it contains chemicals, dangerous chemicals.”
But IRISL has denied that — and threatened legal action against Mwangura. The company has reportedly paid the pirates 200000 — the first of several “ransom instalments”, but that, too, has been denied.

Dee8go · #12 09-29-2008, 11:51 AM

Hey, since piracy is such a problem over there, maybe we should set somemore ships full of deadly cargo adrift in that region to be captured by pirates. You could even operate them by remote control.

Botnst · #13 09-29-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dee8go

Hey, since piracy is such a problem over there, maybe we should set somemore ships full of deadly cargo adrift in that region to be captured by pirates. You could even operate them by remote control.

Send'em a burger franchise and an ex-wife.

B