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tankdriver · #16 10-17-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

Obama and Co. are real studs for picking on a guy who's door THEY knocked on, he gave them an answer they did not like so its smear the little guy.

What? The guy showed up at an Obama rally and told him he'd pay more taxes under his plan, while in the handshake line.

Medmech · #17 10-17-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tankdriver

What? The guy showed up at an Obama rally and told him he'd pay more taxes under his plan, while in the handshake line.

It's a metaphor, whether he was asked or told people of BO a JB's stature should not be picking on the guy. Does it make you feel better that he is being picked on?

tankdriver · #18 10-17-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

It's a metaphor, whether he was asked or told people of BO a JB's stature should not be picking on the guy. Does it make you feel better that he is being picked on?

I don't see Obama or Biden 'picking on' the guy, but I think my previous post shows what I think of it.

I don't think it makes a dam bit of difference if he was a plant. Seems to me he's a Republican who got in line and said what he wanted to say. I have no problem with that.

azimuth · #19 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM

I guess Obama should only spar with sympathetic opponents.

Honus · #20 10-18-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

Obama and Co. are real studs for picking on a guy who's door THEY knocked on...

I missed the part where Obama and Co. picked on Joe. When did they do that? And did Obama do it personally? I have a hard time picturing him doing that.

Matt SD300 · #21 10-18-2008, 12:57 AM

Maybe...Brian Carlton...BC .."Buttcrack" and Joe the plumber should spar?...the best crack wins!!........

azimuth · #22 10-18-2008, 01:17 AM

I think it's instructive that we focus more on the individual than on what the candidate revealed. I don't care if Joe is Joe the Brundlefly. He could be a neomaxizumdweebi...I don't care. The important point is what Sen. Obama said. He said he would spread the wealth around. What gives him the right to use tax money to socially engineer? That is Socialism. Socialism runs contrary to human nature and will therefore be more and more likely to fail as it becomes a greater component of the economy. Socialism will divide this country to the point of civil war. Mark my words.

Honus · #23 10-18-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by azimuth

...What gives him the right to use tax money to socially engineer?...

The same thing that has always given the party in power the right to use tax money to socially engineer. Social engineering is throughout our tax laws.

BrierS · #24 10-18-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by oilslick

What Obama confessed to is TRUE! He's a socialist!

Funny how the left tries to tie Joe with Alaska. Yeah, go after Joe. Discredit him while BHO has yet to be truthful about his associations with Ayers, Resko, and lest we forget the racist spiritual leader Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Yeah, go after Joe! Btw, I really liked the writing style of the reporter, especially toward the end of the article when they said, "she lasted talked to". I had to read that one over and over. Gotta love those elementary school paper reporters!

Your inclusion of the last paragraph presents an interesting view. If you listen to Palin and McCain speak (especially Palin), you will see their abilities run parallel to the level of what you accuse the reporter. Let us see...a reporter writing at elementary school paper level in comparison to a Presidential and VP candidate team...you may want to listen to the GOP contenders over and over and then decide if you want an elementary level team leading our great country. Say nothing about their dirty tactics in twisting the Ayers, Wright, etc. issues. I noticed you did not offer the fair and balanced approach of including McCain's K-5 involvement nor Palin's religious affiliations. Let us be fair and stick to the real issues not the twisted, divisive ones.

BrierS · #25 10-18-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Maybe...Brian Carlton...BC .."Buttcrack" and Joe the plumber should spar?...the best crack wins!!........

Moreover, the off-topic turn of your post offers what useful relevance? Just another example of a Righty diverting from the underlying topic. Some wonder why many of the Independents (such as me) remained undecided for so long...it often is to see what the last chapter of the book says. In this case, if the important issues facing our Great nation are not enough for the candidates to stick to and they instead opt to Robo polling, Palin tactics, etc. we can make a more informed decision.

MS Fowler · #26 10-18-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BrierS

Moreover, the off-topic turn of your post offers what useful relevance? Just another example of a Righty diverting from the underlying topic. Some wonder why many of the Independents (such as me) remained undecided for so long...it often is to see what the last chapter of the book says. In this case, if the important issues facing our Great nation are not enough for the candidates to stick to and they instead opt to Robo polling, Palin tactics, etc. we can make a more informed decision.

OK, cut out all the off-topic crap.
The question for me is simple..Do I want increasing socialism?
For me, the answer is an unqualified " NO".

I do not want to live under socialism. The loss of individual rights would crush the spirit.

BrierS · #27 10-18-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

OK, cut out all the off-topic crap.
The question for me is simple..Do I want increasing socialism?
For me, the answer is an unqualified " NO".

I do not want to live under socialism. The loss of individual rights would crush the spirit.

You so eloquently and with such un-equivocation portend to define the overall impact of an Obama presidency as being akin to socialism yet you fail to define what the McCain type policies (if you can figure out what they are) would leave us. More importantly, you seem to forget that a democratic type of government contains certain policies that are parallel to some in socialistic and even communistic forms of government. What about our elderly? Due to their inability to fund fully their final years of existence, should we deport or euthanize them rather than use socialistic-type measures to support them? Some would prefer a pure capitalistic form of government whereby regulations are rare. Let the strong and lucky reap what they can and to hell with the rest (majority in this and most cases). I believe the majority of the voting population has seen what a lack of regulations and their enforcement can do. Why do you not want the candidates to stick to the important global issues facing us? You blast those that post reminders of why actual policies do matter while the political sniping is nothing more than divisive, diversionary tactics. If we are addressing the cost of eggs in a store, we certainly do not need to include the composition of the moon.

Dubyagee · #28 10-18-2008, 07:59 AM

Joe Plumber owes back taxes and so does Obama's treasury selection.

You’d think that matters more than the tax liens of Joe the Plumber, wouldn’t you? But good luck finding a Big Media story about Nesbitt’s liens.

BrierS · #29 10-18-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

Joe Plumber owes back taxes and so does Obama's treasury selection.

You’d think that matters more than the tax liens of Joe the Plumber, wouldn’t you? But good luck finding a Big Media story about Nesbitt’s liens.

What does either have to do with the strengths or weaknesses of the candidates? Are you suggesting that every person connected with every candidate should be so thoroughly vetted that we need to know what brand of toilet paper he or she use? Follow the "General Systems Theory" some...working outwards from the primary issues until the side issues have so little relevance they no longer warrant consideration. You are once again putting a diversionary tactic to the forefront of what should actually matter (per the majority of voting Americans). Is that not an anti-American way of doing things?

Brian Carlton · #30 10-18-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BrierS

Moreover, the off-topic turn of your post offers what useful relevance? Just another example of a Righty diverting from the underlying topic. Some wonder why many of the Independents (such as me) remained undecided for so long...it often is to see what the last chapter of the book says. In this case, if the important issues facing our Great nation are not enough for the candidates to stick to and they instead opt to Robo polling, Palin tactics, etc. we can make a more informed decision.

Steve.........a person to ignore.

In fact, he's now on a "lunch break" that's going to last a couple of months.